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2018-07-10 04:56:37 UTC

<:GWnanamiRemThink:402195380894171146>

2018-07-10 04:57:34 UTC

Like Benji is very far towards small govt

2018-07-10 04:58:47 UTC

What is strange as well, is that Pence is less authoritharian than Trump

2018-07-10 04:58:51 UTC

I'm too tired for another test.

2018-07-10 04:59:00 UTC

I already took two IQ tests.

2018-07-10 04:59:12 UTC

lol a guy in another discord shared a pro comie article blaiming Capitalism for US economic troubles and first response was "smells like communism"

2018-07-10 04:59:14 UTC

What? watching Rick and Morty

2018-07-10 04:59:26 UTC

kek

2018-07-10 04:59:56 UTC

What if your tooooo intelligent for Rick and Morty?? Has anyone thought about that?

2018-07-10 05:00:04 UTC

I think I must be

2018-07-10 05:00:11 UTC

I can't stand rick and morty.

2018-07-10 05:00:16 UTC

What if that show is just trivial to you

2018-07-10 05:00:34 UTC

rye

2018-07-10 05:00:37 UTC

get it

2018-07-10 05:00:56 UTC

zeh firearms

2018-07-10 05:01:08 UTC

So theres constitution party

2018-07-10 05:01:15 UTC

Whats that one? Just pro amendments?

2018-07-10 05:01:35 UTC

Mont, that's out of stock!

2018-07-10 05:01:43 UTC

Strict Constitutionalists likely

2018-07-10 05:01:53 UTC

so they take the Constitution literally

2018-07-10 05:02:02 UTC

idk for sure though

2018-07-10 05:02:05 UTC

Huh, are they libertarian as well?

2018-07-10 05:02:09 UTC

rick and morty < futurama < red dwarf

2018-07-10 05:02:21 UTC

Cause well. I dont even know the constitution besides you know, right to bear arms

2018-07-10 05:02:45 UTC

Also gotta go

2018-07-10 05:02:48 UTC

I think there is some crossover but Libertarians tend to be more economic and some are anarchic

2018-07-10 05:03:05 UTC

Right to free speech and free expression, including publication and religion

2018-07-10 05:03:06 UTC

1st Amendment is most important imo

2018-07-10 05:03:23 UTC

Right to bear arms, implying a right to self defense

2018-07-10 05:03:43 UTC

like ok the 2nd enforces it in some sense but without the first we wouldnt even have the 2nd

2018-07-10 05:03:46 UTC

etc.

2018-07-10 05:03:54 UTC

right to a speedy trial, with the right to face your accusers

2018-07-10 05:03:58 UTC

which one is rule of law?

2018-07-10 05:04:05 UTC

without the 2nd you wouldent really have the first

2018-07-10 05:04:14 UTC

Okay makes sense

2018-07-10 05:04:17 UTC

symbiosis works that way

2018-07-10 05:04:18 UTC

Every single part of the bill of rights is important.

2018-07-10 05:04:21 UTC

Never heard of the constitution party

2018-07-10 05:04:25 UTC

first is FIRST for a reason though

2018-07-10 05:04:33 UTC

Cause I agree with all the examples Ryecast

2018-07-10 05:04:34 UTC

they work to support eachother

2018-07-10 05:04:36 UTC

One of the most important ones is #10

2018-07-10 05:04:43 UTC

which nobody EVER pays attention to.

2018-07-10 05:05:29 UTC

We dont pay much attention to any of it tbh

2018-07-10 05:05:35 UTC

we take it for granted

2018-07-10 05:06:10 UTC

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

2018-07-10 05:06:38 UTC

it would be nice if the full context of the 2nd was applied in the united states rather than just the last half though

2018-07-10 05:06:38 UTC

A big honking federal government is unconstitutional.

2018-07-10 05:07:00 UTC

What do you mean by that, Arch-fiend?

2018-07-10 05:07:24 UTC

price match using it

2018-07-10 05:07:32 UTC

a well regulated milita nessicary to the security of the nation

2018-07-10 05:07:35 UTC

everytime a militia forms they tend to be extremists

2018-07-10 05:07:42 UTC

You're missing commas.

2018-07-10 05:07:48 UTC

You're missing the context of what that first line is

2018-07-10 05:07:50 UTC

National Guard essentially serves that function though

2018-07-10 05:08:21 UTC

the national guard is a branch of the military isint it?

2018-07-10 05:08:30 UTC

You're missing the whole point

2018-07-10 05:08:32 UTC

That is not a restriction

2018-07-10 05:08:36 UTC

that is a justification.

2018-07-10 05:08:50 UTC

```A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.```

2018-07-10 05:08:55 UTC

yea they are army but they essentially are home defense

2018-07-10 05:08:57 UTC

i dont know why you think that i think its a restriction

2018-07-10 05:09:10 UTC

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state

2018-07-10 05:09:11 UTC

we dont have a well regulated milita

2018-07-10 05:09:30 UTC

[Because a well trained militia is necessary if we're going to be able to stay free]

2018-07-10 05:09:42 UTC

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

2018-07-10 05:10:01 UTC

People have the right to own weapons, bear arms, be familiar with their riflery

2018-07-10 05:10:19 UTC

yeah only the right of the people to keep and bear arms not being infringed is part of the 2nd that anyone actually defends

2018-07-10 05:10:34 UTC

That's the only part there is to it.

2018-07-10 05:10:43 UTC

and organize if the government proves to be tyrannical in order to over throw it

2018-07-10 05:10:46 UTC

The true injustice is when people relegate it to hunting.

2018-07-10 05:10:54 UTC

That clearly isn't what it's talking about.

2018-07-10 05:11:11 UTC

It's also not talking about members of a militia.

2018-07-10 05:11:31 UTC

sure, and the fact that we dont have a well regulated milita

2018-07-10 05:12:00 UTC

It's saying because the ability of a militia may be necessary to be formed, this right over here isn't going to be fucked around with.

2018-07-10 05:12:10 UTC

the militia i would assume is only necessary if the people needed to overthrow a tyrannical government?

2018-07-10 05:12:21 UTC

Yes.

2018-07-10 05:12:30 UTC

The very government that might try to take our guns away.

2018-07-10 05:12:48 UTC

so basically we dont see a need for it in our society now

2018-07-10 05:12:59 UTC

ah well id kinda argue with the founding fathers that armament isint the only nessessity to actualy having a well regulated milita

2018-07-10 05:13:16 UTC

but we are able to be ready should the possibility arise

2018-07-10 05:13:42 UTC

Well, if discourse should *actually* fall to civil war

2018-07-10 05:14:11 UTC

i mean yea that would justify it

2018-07-10 05:14:27 UTC

lets hope it doesnt come to that

2018-07-10 05:14:42 UTC

i think its justified in order to prevent civil war and prevent many forms of social decay and threat of invasion

2018-07-10 05:15:49 UTC

Conversation came up a while back, a rather convincing argument that Healthcare actually IS a human right.

2018-07-10 05:16:00 UTC

and that doesn't mean what Bernie thinks it means.

2018-07-10 05:16:51 UTC

At the core of it, is self-preservation. As enshrined as a core belief, Life is a human right.

2018-07-10 05:16:55 UTC

its the right to choose id think?

2018-07-10 05:16:56 UTC

Does someone have a right to be saved?

2018-07-10 05:17:12 UTC

because I don't think so ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-07-10 05:17:27 UTC

in germany: kinda

2018-07-10 05:17:30 UTC

You have a right to preserve yourself.

2018-07-10 05:17:33 UTC

idk man christians are always tryin save people lel

2018-07-10 05:17:41 UTC

yeah, I have a right to do so

2018-07-10 05:17:50 UTC

but if it's beyond my means It means I need to be saved

2018-07-10 05:17:54 UTC

Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness

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