Well, is it OK for say, the Cherokee to want to preserve their cultural identity?

No.

If it means race, no.

I love how the BBC criticised Hungary for closing their borders in interest of preserving their culture

I speak quite plainly on this subject. What couldn't you give to an adopted child?

Because its possible to, you yourself, have an identity and then not prescribe to a different identity so not want that one to usurp yours.

Does identity EVER have anything to do with ideas?

So the extermination of native American tribes is no different from Europe's past wars?

@Scribblehatch Feminism

If the identity isn't an idea, then I don't give the slightest shit.

I think it always has to do with ideas. Because it has to do with culture... your ideas depend on your culture.

Well culture isn't just ideas

What else?

It's also traditions

Rituals

Well, yeah, but those are parts of an identity

How is that different?

Traditions and rituals are ideas.

Well

On the day you're born, can you be permanently barred from a culture?

If so, fuck whatever idea of culture it is.

How do you get barred from a culture

Race.

Where

Oooh you mean the cultural appropriation kind of culture

That'd be what I'm attacking.

The racial angle to this nonsense.

You'd be attacking nothing, then.

I'm trying to thinking about cultures that are dependent on race

I argued with a Gavin fan on the cherokee thing specifically.

Oh wait

I think I got one

Only he was bringing up race.

American African

"You wouldn't want to see your race die, would you?!"

Culture

But they grow up in a culture that doesn't bar them at birth, nor does it care what they do.

The hip hop, ghetto culture that you need to be black to participate in, I suppose

Good for them, then.

So they don't discriminate by race. I'm glad.

My brother in law is native American. He doesn't have a right to a culture?

Other than that, I can't think of others

Now if you grew up black in a rural chinese town, or white and blonde in a pakistani village..

.. Notice how sneaky Atkins worded that just now?

What are you talking about fella?

sneaky?

I'm honestly trying to understand you dude.

"Doesn't HE have the right to a culture?" What, of people that look like him? What ARE you talking about?

These dark names are fucking gay.

Okie

>you forgot the meme arrows shiv

>I want to
>Swallow cyanide

Am I doing it right mom

I'm trying to figure out whether native American tribes like the Cherokee are fundamentally the same or different from indo-European groups.

Does one being white matter?

I want race not to matter, at all.

Bad example, but look at islamic culture

They don't care about race

I want there to be no bonuses or penalties to race.

They admit anyone

So I can declare myself Cherokee?

I don't see why not. You can choose to participate in Cherokee rituals

But if you mean classifying yourself as a Cherokee ethnically, no

But Cherokee is an ethnicity.

Not really

Let ne use another example

Tell the Cherokee that.

No, what I mean is you are not understanding me

If it's an ethnicity that wants to exist because ethnicity, it can go fuck off.

And I'd say it to its face.

There are rituals, morals and traditions the Cherokee have followed

So genocide and ethnic cleansing are not crimes to you?

I don't think the people who you hate have ideas far from yours, scribble. Look at Tommy Robinson. He's not a racist, just hates shariah islam because of experience with it. People in hungary, polland, etc.. they're all resisting immigration and you might think it's racist because they're making sure black and brown people don't enter, but they likely dont care what color they are, but if they share their culture

"So what you're saying is"

Shit you got me, I'm for genocide.

No, dick.

Anyone should be allowed to participate in those

But

I'm against people who will only mingle with their same race.

You can't classify yourself as an ethnic cherokee

That should not factor into your decision *whatsoever*

Old age is not a genocide.

The guy is my best friend ffs.

But also, we should be allowed to do that as a freedom we have? lol

Another example in the Dravidian people

Anyone of any race can come and participate in our culture

Have the SJWs demoralized some of you so much..?

I think you're seeking out an unattainable utopia there, scribs.

"What's wrong with being exclusive to your own race no matter what?!"

.. Plenty's wrong.

You can't have freedom and then not freedom because reasons

Learn bharatanatyam, have our food, learn the music

It's not right just because it's legal.

I'm not arresting, I'm browbeating.

I'm namecalling and dropping crass words.

Scribble's point is just that culture shouldn't be exclusive to a race

I don't see any problem with that

Yes.

I'd say it's wrong if it's a conscious decision you're making. Less wrong, but still wrong if it's a purely subconscious bias, and fine if it's just happenstance

Imagine extending these principles to hair color, eye color, and left/right handedness.