If the identity isn't an idea, then I don't give the slightest shit.

I think it always has to do with ideas. Because it has to do with culture... your ideas depend on your culture.

Well culture isn't just ideas

What else?

It's also traditions

Rituals

Well, yeah, but those are parts of an identity

How is that different?

Traditions and rituals are ideas.

Well

On the day you're born, can you be permanently barred from a culture?

If so, fuck whatever idea of culture it is.

How do you get barred from a culture

Race.

Where

Oooh you mean the cultural appropriation kind of culture

That'd be what I'm attacking.

The racial angle to this nonsense.

You'd be attacking nothing, then.

I'm trying to thinking about cultures that are dependent on race

I argued with a Gavin fan on the cherokee thing specifically.

Oh wait

I think I got one

Only he was bringing up race.

American African

"You wouldn't want to see your race die, would you?!"

Culture

But they grow up in a culture that doesn't bar them at birth, nor does it care what they do.

The hip hop, ghetto culture that you need to be black to participate in, I suppose

Good for them, then.

So they don't discriminate by race. I'm glad.

My brother in law is native American. He doesn't have a right to a culture?

Other than that, I can't think of others

Now if you grew up black in a rural chinese town, or white and blonde in a pakistani village..

.. Notice how sneaky Atkins worded that just now?

What are you talking about fella?

sneaky?

I'm honestly trying to understand you dude.

"Doesn't HE have the right to a culture?" What, of people that look like him? What ARE you talking about?

These dark names are fucking gay.

Okie