i remember that

they define hate speech as "It only applies if its against the correct target"

simple as that 😉

in the UK if someone is offended by your speech you have comitted a crime

i am offended by that law

you see.. when he said "then we'll make it so" ... that no longer sounds like he's just sharing an opinion...

I know right, a politician listening to the people. ewwww

how dare he try to enact policies the people want

You can share an opinion, but you can't allow people to vote on it. Democracy 😉

😉

but hes talking about enacting discrimination? is that right?

no

```@Timcast https://amp.economist.com/graphic-detail/2018/10/15/after-a-year-of-metoo-american-opinion-has-shifted-against-victims```
I'd like a new survey starting now, after the Kavenaugh thing.
Its probably more against the "victims"...

he's talking about allowing less moroccan immigrants in

so?

how is it discrimination?

why can't Netherlands restrict immigration from Morocco? do they have to have immigration from there?

I want less syrians in the UK. is that discrimination?

and how would you have less of a certain race without discrimination?

The context was, he was refering to the city he was holding his rally in, and that its full of moroccan people,

And he asked the audience if they wanted more or less moroccan people

They all shouted Less

So he said they'll get working on it

your the only one that said race

we all said people from a place

Anchor people from the 60's Stormtrooper

people from a place then

there are christians in syria

I want them to stay there

just as much as the muslims

there are actually different ethnicities in Morocco, not very diverse tho, but still

we needed laborers after WW2 to help rebuild, so we invited moroccans and turks

and they're slowly bringing their families in

how would you have less moroccans immigrating without discrimination?

Migrant Labour is supposed to go back after getting their due innit? but ppl in Western Europe too soft to deport them 😂

its not discrimination

you stop all immigration? 😉

he's for stopping all of it

closing borders

you just put a ban on people from X country

stopping all would be fine

wacka there is a problem with what u said there

thats not against your article 1 or whatever...

If it is discrimination to not wanting to get more morrocans or any nationality for that matter

i mean technically, he's for stopping all, and getting rid of the muslim faith thats plagueing the Netherlands

@wacka can we introduce a law that we don't want unskilled labor to immigrate?

why cant a country exclude people from another country @wacka ?

then you effectively cannot have immigration control as that would be discrimination per default

pretty much

Isn't the Shengen system technically discrimination?

Free travel/migration between EU countries, but not into/out of

it is

we in britain can do what we want jes... Im talking abotu netherlands with this "do not discriminate law

we have a similar law

but we discriminate all the time when it comes to Immigration, we discriminate based on medical history, we discriminate based on IQ, we discriminate based on their linguistic skills

whats the exact text of the law... what can you not discriminate on ?

look, I dont care where they are from - just IQ test them. 115+ you can come in

not having any discrimination of who you're letting in = Open Borders Policy

well i'll put it into a different case then Wacka,

A protest against a Mosque was held in the netherlands

And a man was arrested for protesting with a plushie pig-hat

one standard deviation aboive norm or higher

cuz it might upset muslims

```but we discriminate all the time when it comes to Immigration, we discriminate based on medical history, we discriminate based on IQ, we discriminate based on their linguistic skills```
We discriminate who we fuck

what you buy

what you eat

everything

Exactly

So since you asked

dr wol, what was he arrested under?

wacka

its so moronic to fight for "not to discriminate" because that's equal to being.

in Britain you can do what you want? try saying the n word to someone who just broke into your house, the police will prosecute you

you walk down a dark ally as see my 4'11" mum you will discriminate positivly as you wont perceive a threat

That he could potentially upset Muslims

the officer said that as he was being arrested

@AdorableStormtrooper an extra sentance of up to 7 years for that

Im not fighting for the "do not discriminate" law... Im saying its not incompatible with free expression laws

It is incompatible

right but we dont have free expression

but we should

freedom of speech is an absolute

Mate, the British Police in several towns literally ignored systemic and routine gang rape and torture of little girls just to not Upset the Muslims.

indeed we should

you can't have freedom of speech, with some censorship

If you do not specificly mention against waht you must not discriminate

gief 1st amendment

The way it is set up it is incompatible

its as perfect a speech law as is in existance

Post WW2 they made it illegal to deny the holocaust

as Styx puts it

"You don't need protection for speech anyone approves of"

and now all these hatespeech laws are pushed through the same reasoning

the american 1st could be improved

my dude @wacka, in your world a Politician can't even suggest limiting immigration from Morocco and you're saying Hate Speech laws are compatible with Free Speech principle?

I didnt say that

thats the netherlands law

lets not gang up on Wacka

yeah. makes you wonder who could possibly be pushing such laws.😏

everyone argueing with him at once is a bit unfair

Ok here's another article from my country

Article 19:

Wacka said "do not discriminate" law... is not incompatible with free expression laws"

```yeah. makes you wonder who could possibly be pushing such laws.:smirk:```
The alt right would say the Jews.
Everyone else: Authoritarian, who wants to be dictated by a Dictator.

not hate speech laws

theres a difference

"The freedom of religion, the expression of it, also the right to freedom of speech on all belgian territories are guaranteed.
Except if crimes are comitted by using these rights"

the problem is not people killing or harming others using the above