What path is that?

Oh then guide us in our dark times Shiva

Full on reactionary identity politics that will be based more on the people participating than the issues

Oh, i think that's at its peak

Or close to.

Left and right will cease all meaning

I dont think it'll get much worse then this.

Oh, it will

That's why you're not india yet

I doubt we'll ever be india :p

It sounds like Canada's in for some rough times though

You have exceptional circumstances and history

that we dont.

You guys probably won't be us, since you have gun rights

and you can revolt

Oh no.

I dont want to have this talk.

lol

Canada just needs to have the constitution solidified

Ive had this talk so many times.

instead of having this mealy mouthed half-assed privileges as rigths bullshit

Charter of Rights and Freedoms

Gun rights are neat, but actually revoluting with them in the modern day would be....

all of the rights and freedoms of the average citizen can be axed

Yea, our gun laws are restrictive xD

Even in the US i mean.

@Scarlet it doesnt need to occur on a national level. Look up the Battle of Athens, TN

Well, currently the country closest to india is sweden, except for gay laws and open borders

I said modern day

And i meant modern day.

We have pretty open borders but no one wants to come in lol

whats the major difference between 1946 and 2018? Do you think the US Government is going to get away with drone strikes on civilian targets?

I wonder why

We can still revolt, but we're pretty limited in how much threat we can provide in a militaristic sense

No, thats not really my issue with the comment

Im not saying a revolt cant happen

Im saying you really dont want it to.

If anything it'd be an economic stagnation as cities are cogs in motion

oh nobody wants it to

It'll devolve the country into full on chaos tbh

but nobody wants to live under tyranny either

Do you guys think the british will revolt

Yes

Physically? No. Politicially? Yes.

If they have to they will

If the course continues

I mean, look at the Tommy Riots

Ukip seems on course for a resurgence

Nigel farrage is returning

the riots in 2011 proved that they will react violently if they think shit is going off the rails

Maybe, but they really fumbled after the conservatives said they'd do the referendum

I love farrage so much

He is like a better donald trump

Also, im really not a fan of Tommy, but the circumstances of the arrest are pretty bullshit.

Yeah, I don't want to revolt, but I want it to be something any potential tyrant would have to worry about

@Scarlet Well....

not really

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It makes sense legally

Tommy's arrest was super sketchy
He asked the cops if he was in the clear, they said yes. He got arrested and the judge witnessed the "crime" and the arrest

it seems like they were looking for any reason to arrest and sentence the guy to me

He could have escaped if it was just a custodial arrest, but he was on parole

and then proceeded to give him 13 months

With the flash court ruling

so any crime while out

Oh, i wasnt aware he was on parole.

further I've heard rumors of sketchier shit from Dankula, but it's one of those things that you cant confirm

But, here's what I find sketchy

Tommy wasn't alone

there were two other reporters in the exact same area

Working for a sikh news network

With much bigger equipment

For some reason them being there is fine

but for tommy it isn't?

yup, law is definitely not being applied consistently

Also it was a rather short trial

Cant help but really dislike the guy, but yeah, he wasnt treated fairly.

and the lawyer told tommy to plead guilty

Rules for thee, but not for me~

iirc it was said before the incident that if tommy did that again, he would be arrested?

Any custodial crime, yes

Dankula's claim is that the lawyer they gave him was not his own, and that they lied to his lawyer so he wouldnt show up

but we'll have to wait and see if that's true

I'm actually a big fan of tommy's

He's widely misrepresented in the media

Both alternative and mainstream

I don't know enough about Tommy, but he shouldn't have been arrested for what he did. Commentating on a ongoing trial is just the same as any other news media out there, mainstream or alternative >.>

But, the guy is a firebrand

and has done some really stupid shit

I'm not familiar with him, but the laws he was jailed for seem questionably ethical to say the least

thats part of the larger issue regarding laws surrounding media coverage of court cases

I remember when he was still the leader of EDL

He told the racists and nazis to leave, and burned a nazi flag in front of them

Dude was threatened to leave the party or die

xD

But now he's known as the "former leader of the EDL"

Even though he literally told the far righters to leave, and then left himself

I was hoping Majiid Nawaz and Tommy would work more together

If you guys wanna actually know about tommy, he describes himself and his goals here pretty well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQ94jFg_4A