yeah it makes sense

That's basically a career.

Basically

He joined when he was 17 lol

It's the guys who never get past the low levels but collect pensions for a lifetime that make you scratch your head.

And alot of those guys leave at 30 and take 6 figure jobs in private industry.

Oh I should mention

Can those guys get jobs elsewhere?

Giving your kids ritalin means they can probably never hold office.

"Why?"

Because it means they can never serve in the military.

"--Huh?"

@pratel who actually stays in the low levels and gets a pension?

You'll be running against people who have served in the military.

They win and you don't, in most circumstances.

You Americans should medicate children less

@oprahsminge I'm not sure. But I've heard people talk about it.

that's seeming to become a trend @Abel

Here we tell them to grow the fuck up

the reduction of it

I'm not 100% familiar with military compensation to be honest.

Parents get bamboozled.

They didn't know what ritalin really was.

It came highly recommended

But I know you can get a surprisingly solid pension for surprisingly little time served.

And people seemed to be experts.

@pratel iirc in the USMC, if you were at a certain rank after a certain number of years still, they just boot you

My parents weren't stupid, they just trusted professionals.

@oprahsminge good to know.

Do they still get paid though?

They assumed other people were as honorable about their jobs, as they were with their own.

like if I had stayed in and only been a corporal at year 8 id have gotten booted out

FUCK NO

That was the mistake.

you need 20 minimum to get a pension

That would make sense.

If that's the threshold, it's fairly reasonable.

Can you take a shortcut if you go through a service academy or something?

its not that its unreasonable or reasonable. It's just the way that the pay scales scale upward so dramatically

The whole idea of pensions, and being able to dangle the whole of them, makes me sick.

Well they're basically dead at this point.

and they pay out at high as fuck percentages of your paygrade

Only the government offers them.

@pratel what you mean take a shortcut through a service academy?

If it's something you're promised, something that keeps you and your family ALIVE, you cannot just hold it over people.

like pick up rank out of the gate?

@oprahsminge that would make sense. I think alot of the people I've heard of doing this were doctors and educated people who were able to count their years in education towards their service.

Yeah, basically.

oh

I mean I was enlisted

i dunno how the officers worked

They also got the education paid for by the state.

and theres not a bunch of officers in the Corps to begin with

less than most other branches

Chair Force flies the highest (for now)

@Timcast social justice simply existing is to far. A very mild form of social justice would be racial segregation and discrimination, a relativly mild form of social justice would be the KKK, a strong form of social justice would be sharia, nazi germany or the soviet union

@Scribblehatch they gave out speed in field rations for some soldiers

point is it may not be the best example of the military writ large

USMC is weird

Fair point.

I've learned some things in this conversation.

I think during ww2 or another war

I might be mistaken too.

It was found in a survival rations

I've just heard stories.

i wouldn't be surprised to get officers in by giving them shit

its hard enough to get people who qualify at minimum now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Tg2QtpP7A

^

Well, why would men want to die for a country that doesnt even allow them to vote like the US?

that was a good interview

Yeah, US men DONT have the right to vote

I always knew how that ritalin disqualifies you.

When my mom told a phone recruiter about my ritalin they stopped calling.

I didn't know how much else disqualifies.

a lot of shit

most of the population is disqualified by default

They can vote if they sign up for the draft and only if they sign up to the draft while women can vote unconditionaly and women had a similar conditional vote to the male draft now before 1920.

I dunno if ritalin SHOULD disqualify you.

They just had to own land

But since it does, I want people to stop telling me "Sack up and join the military you unemployed piece of shit"

@Scribblehatch no clue if it should

It's the most infuriating thing in the world bring up facts and have them called excuses.

@Redneo I'll keep it in mind you would like to be treated like a woman then

Oh yes, i would.

I can tell them to look it up. And they won't. And they think they're winning the argument.

k

Ritalin exposes multiple potential liabilities to someone who doesn't know what ADHD is.

im sure it probably fucks with SOMETHING

i just couldn't say what

All throughout history and all over the globe id prefer to be treated like a female

@Redneo go get the surgery

YES, even under sharia female are treated better than the men

```Ritalin exposes multiple potential liabilities to someone who doesn't know what ADHD is.```
This sentence confuses me.

Because you know what I mean most likely.

There are multiple different things it could've meant.

@oprahsminge i may if i had money

k

Unemployed otaku degenerate <:kodaeye:465702849335132160>

>Needs Drugs to Operate
>Unpredictable if not on medicine.
>Muh Learning Disability