Inheritance steals basically everything though

He "invented" alot of languages for the stories he wrote

Tolkien was also close with C S Lewis

How is he the opposite of Orwell?

although they differed on religious matters lol

I don't particularly care. I enjoyed it.

they bantered about it

Like the pebble shit was almost directly lifted from The Belgariad

I mean wasnt CS really relligious

And so were a lot of other key moments

CS used to be aethist

What changed?

@Dennafen Writing style

Yeah, CS Lewis books are an allegory of the bible.

Ah, I can see that.

then he became protestant and tolkien said he should have been catholic

I've never actually read LOTR books.

Orwell uses very simple language mostly

Oh lol, I see the banter now

idk porbs cause of WWI

Tolkien literally created the setting FOR the elvish language he made up

they both served together

Tolkien is really descriptive

Well 1984 is based around words getting banned

He goes on at length, using words and songs

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I mean, one theme in that book is alot of words getting banned

SO that it becomes very difficult to discuss complex ideas

It's a common theme in all orwell books lol

Well he was trained as a linguist right?

Animal Farm, Homage to catalonia

Tolkin was.

Tolkien was a linguist yes

The common theme is making discourse extremely difficult

Animal Farm is my favorite orwell book.

ANd the banning of words was one such way

I think the most complex thing orwell wrote was the shooting of an elephant

Actually wanted the bible to only be read in Latin like it used too

His first civilian job after World War I was at the Oxford English Dictionary, where he worked mainly on the history and etymology of words of Germanic origin beginning with the letter W.[69] In 1920, he took up a post as Reader in English Language at the University of Leeds, and became the youngest professor there.[70] While at Leeds, he produced A Middle English Vocabulary and a definitive edition of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight with E. V. Gordon, both becoming academic standard works for several decades. He also translated Sir Gawain, Pearl, and Sir Orfeo. In 1925, he returned to Oxford as Rawlinson and Bosworth Professor of Anglo-Saxon, with a fellowship at Pembroke College.

the mad lad work on the dictionary

Tolkin?

ye

Yeah.

Orwell was a reporter by trade wasn't he?

I have Tolkien's Sir Gawain and the Green Knight as well as the Death of Author/Motre de Author

Yeah he worked at the BBC.

I love orwell so much

He once got into a bar fight so he could get into prison

and report what it was like in english jail

I've only read his two big ones (animal farm, and 1984).

Oh, you should check out Homage to catalonia

it's a great book

I've been reading hitchchens lately

Rn, I'm reading Letters to a young contrarian

I love Hitch!

Can I be honest

SUre

Half of the stuff is going over my head

Haha

Hitchens is really interesting

It's like he fed it through a thesaurus

I can see that.

I disagree with a lot of what he says, but I always appreciate his explanation

Like, I can get what exactly he's writing

But, Not *everything*

If you have the option I would listen to "God is not great" rather than read it.

I have Animal Farm but not 1984, My dad has 1984 but not Animal Farm lol

I still need to read the Kissinger book

Also

1984 and Brave New World are basically required reading

I guess. Brave New World is too religious for my liking.

tbh ive barely read the Ice and Fire books

I didn't find it especially religious

religious?

You didn't?

I do have Eragon and Eldest too

I caught up on ASoIaF in like 3 months just going back and forth on the train

No

idk

why

it's pretty cult-like, but it's not religious imo

We is also good, but is the proto-1984 basically

Written by an actual Soviet citizen tho. Probably the most disturbing of the 3

I wanted to re-read lotr for one, as well as start on the Silmarillion so thats a reason

But what religious messaging did you get from BNW?

@cananda Yeah one of the foundations of the book is that people have abandon religion.

that and i got into comics and stuff too so distracted lol

Orgie Borgie!

That's par for the course with authoritarian regimes though

then how is it too religious?

Worship of the state becomes normative

Or that's the goal at least

becomes normie

lel

No, they warship nothing.

There is no higher meaning to life at all in A brave new world.

I thought brave new world was more against Nihilism

Well that's because Brave New World is the "carrot"

Yes it is.@Deleted User