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2018-09-07 01:59:50 UTC

Sorry how does legislating the internet fix this?

2018-09-07 02:00:00 UTC

It blocks it ahead of time.

2018-09-07 02:00:04 UTC

No it doesn't lol

2018-09-07 02:00:11 UTC

It forces the issue to stop censorship for the meantime.

2018-09-07 02:00:16 UTC

They can just fucking overturn that shit

2018-09-07 02:00:25 UTC

What?

2018-09-07 02:00:29 UTC

No they can't.

2018-09-07 02:00:48 UTC

If you're required to host all political discussion as a public square, there's nothing to overturn.

2018-09-07 02:01:09 UTC

That's the most retarded solution I've ever heard

2018-09-07 02:01:11 UTC

Unless you are saying the laws applied to shopping malls and telephone lines for nearly a half century are unconstitutional.

2018-09-07 02:01:15 UTC

Not an argument.

2018-09-07 02:01:19 UTC

>all political discussion

2018-09-07 02:01:28 UTC

It cannot possibly be that broad

2018-09-07 02:01:36 UTC

Or you're just saying fuck property rights

2018-09-07 02:01:45 UTC

Fine. If you want a more specific solution, I can find it.

2018-09-07 02:01:54 UTC

But there's pretty standard precidents.

2018-09-07 02:02:17 UTC

Which is what I'm advocating for.

2018-09-07 02:02:28 UTC

The only way Trump would put hate speech production in is if it is hate speech protection for trump, which honestly nobody wants to do. Except trump.

2018-09-07 02:02:38 UTC

He's saying the dems will

2018-09-07 02:02:42 UTC

After Trump leaves

2018-09-07 02:02:55 UTC

Or they get rid of him somehow or something.

2018-09-07 02:03:08 UTC

It doesn't really matter, it's very near future from what I can tell.

2018-09-07 02:03:09 UTC

But the thing is that either the Dems can't cuck the supreme court, or you were fucked anyway

2018-09-07 02:03:37 UTC

You place way too much emphasis on precidents.

2018-09-07 02:03:51 UTC

The arguments to overturn your precidents are common in law schools.

2018-09-07 02:04:01 UTC

More common than the arguments for the status quo.

2018-09-07 02:04:16 UTC

And the forces of censorship want to make it even more that way.

2018-09-07 02:04:49 UTC

You're naive if you think the goal isn't to turn the censorious and one-sided style of academia into the broader society.

2018-09-07 02:04:58 UTC

>it's easy to overturn the checks and balances of the country
>it's impossible to overturn a regulation or law

2018-09-07 02:05:01 UTC

And there are reasons the arguments are so one sided in the academy.

2018-09-07 02:05:15 UTC

Sure. Fine. You can overturn or change things later.

2018-09-07 02:05:22 UTC

But the regulations are coming.

2018-09-07 02:05:35 UTC

Then they're coming no matter what

2018-09-07 02:05:35 UTC

And the power is all one sided once the censorship is sufficiently underway.

2018-09-07 02:05:47 UTC

And there's fuck all you can do about it by your own logic

2018-09-07 02:06:15 UTC

No, I'm saying you force open the channel so you can *fight at all*

2018-09-07 02:06:36 UTC

You'd lose the platform and then just say "lol we just burn it" without a fight.

2018-09-07 02:06:54 UTC

>blue wave
>dems get majority
Oh boy, how do you fight now?

2018-09-07 02:07:11 UTC

I don't know. Which is why this needed to be done yesterday.

2018-09-07 02:07:14 UTC
2018-09-07 02:07:31 UTC

My bet is Mattis

2018-09-07 02:08:00 UTC

>we need to change a changeable factor before people can inevitably change it

2018-09-07 02:08:13 UTC

SO WHAT IS YOUR PLAN?

2018-09-07 02:08:17 UTC

Like literally from the perspective you're arguing, abandon ship is the more logical option

2018-09-07 02:08:25 UTC

Mattis would never do this anonymous leaking shit.

2018-09-07 02:08:34 UTC

I'm arguing this from *your* rebuttals m8

2018-09-07 02:08:40 UTC

@Beemann non squitar

2018-09-07 02:08:50 UTC

Please use one fallacy right today

2018-09-07 02:08:56 UTC

Hmm, older, conservative, Male

2018-09-07 02:09:06 UTC

I'm done you're worse than a brick wall @Beemann

2018-09-07 02:09:22 UTC

Yeah that doesn't exactly narrow it down...
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Donald_Trump>

2018-09-07 02:09:26 UTC

Atleast the brick wall doesn't misunderstand fallacies.

2018-09-07 02:10:27 UTC

If Mattis wanted to stop Trump from doing something he'd tell him to his face. Mattis isn't some coward who would stoop to this shit.

2018-09-07 02:11:55 UTC

Honestly, how much does it matter? There's probably a whole cabal. It may not have even been penned by someone we'd name recognize.

2018-09-07 02:12:14 UTC

Like a 2nd or 3rd in command of some agency like the FBI.

2018-09-07 02:19:08 UTC

>misused adhom
>misused non sequitur
>NoU

2018-09-07 02:20:13 UTC

I guess if an official did write it the upside is that it becomes hard for media to deny the existence of a 'deep state'.

2018-09-07 02:26:19 UTC

They quit that story a little while ago.

2018-09-07 02:26:39 UTC

Its now that the deep state is doing a patriotic duty to resist Trump.

2018-09-07 02:27:13 UTC

We were always at war with Eurasia, Comrade

2018-09-07 02:28:14 UTC

"Whether or not it's actually true is irrelevant." - MSM

2018-09-07 02:55:50 UTC

Dems are the reason Kavanaugh is getting in, the idiots thought to short term in changing the rules to get their own and now its backfiring

2018-09-07 03:00:08 UTC

he seems like a good canedate anyway

2018-09-07 03:00:20 UTC

so i dont mind

2018-09-07 03:00:35 UTC

he isn't. trump nominated him ๐Ÿ™„

2018-09-07 03:00:37 UTC

Those Senate rules could've been changed at any time. And it's not like Dems really care about the precedent or taking credit for it.

2018-09-07 03:01:31 UTC

what DO the dems care about, though?

2018-09-07 03:01:44 UTC

Winning.

2018-09-07 03:02:02 UTC

Power.

2018-09-07 03:04:08 UTC

having someone i agree with on gun regulation doesent hurt

2018-09-07 03:04:33 UTC

So i know we are all freaking out about how the Dems are nuts and all, and while i largely agree, we gotta remember that Repubs got some nut jobs too. Like remember every presidency the loosing side says that they want to get rid of the electoral college

2018-09-07 03:04:45 UTC

@devpav wrong

2018-09-07 03:04:49 UTC

keep these things in perspective

2018-09-07 03:04:52 UTC

they care about diversity

2018-09-07 03:04:53 UTC

trans

2018-09-07 03:05:00 UTC

inclusivity

2018-09-07 03:05:02 UTC

lip service tbh

2018-09-07 03:05:02 UTC

illegals

2018-09-07 03:05:05 UTC

Pfft.

2018-09-07 03:05:08 UTC

murders rapists etc]'

2018-09-07 03:05:26 UTC

most establishment Dems arent serious about that stuff

2018-09-07 03:05:35 UTC

they only advocate for votes

2018-09-07 03:05:45 UTC

muh votes

2018-09-07 03:06:01 UTC

propagating non issues so they can still have jobs

2018-09-07 03:06:07 UTC

basically

2018-09-07 03:06:10 UTC

muh racism

2018-09-07 03:06:21 UTC

if racism disappears then they dont have a job

2018-09-07 03:06:28 UTC

We gotta watch the newbies more

2018-09-07 03:06:47 UTC

I wouldnt doubt there are some sane dems out there

2018-09-07 03:06:58 UTC

we gotta amplify them

2018-09-07 03:08:17 UTC

not gonna lie there used to be some sane ones not sure who is sane anymore

2018-09-07 03:08:32 UTC

there are def some republicans who fucking suck

2018-09-07 03:08:38 UTC

rubio fucking sucks

2018-09-07 03:08:43 UTC

cruz sucks sometimes

2018-09-07 03:08:55 UTC

thats just off the top of my head

2018-09-07 03:09:19 UTC

i can name more shitty dems than repubs

2018-09-07 03:09:29 UTC

What are the Dems going to use as a rallying cry after Trump's second term?

2018-09-07 03:09:40 UTC

That's the real conundrum

2018-09-07 03:09:53 UTC

idk

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