I wouldn't do what China was doing if it were up to me. But since it is happening, I hope we can get a silver lining out of this extremely unique situation.

im fine with rye standing behind his principles, he should just think twice if he thinks he can apply his principles to a billion people whove had the same principles they do now for 2000 years

I hope Islam realizes "--Oh there is a limit to our fuckery."

islam is a young man to china

Second coming of Vlad the Impaler.

If you victimize someone without principle, you're far more likely to strengthen them. For the same reason that free speech outs the bigots.

there's a high swath of islam with a very poor iq due to very poor living conditions, not likely

Islam is only 1400 years old

most of islam current shitfest is not because of the religion, but those that believe in it

Chirstianity didnt have its reckoning until the 1600s

Why do we care how old these things are. Humans don't live that long.

Hivemind nonsense.

Years are not power levels.

https://youtu.be/DR7_YQ53lfI

china has principles, their prinicple is that a bad apple spoils the pot. on that principle they will exterminate a race from existance so long as one person from it can threaten them

watch that pls, if you are interested in Islam

Because you can literally see the same things that happened in Chirstinaity prior to the great schism and the 30 years war happening now in islam

and TRIGGER WARNING.

yup Christianity is just as fucked, history wise

speaking as a "Christian"

Your missing the point Lotheron

Exactly

Im not saying all religions are bad

Islam didn't have a new testament.

well, it has the hadiths

as Christianity doesn't allow you to marry a 9 year old girl

Not all Christians are peaceloving. Jesus was.

just molest a 9 year old boy

Im saying that Islam will undergo a split and infighting similar to the 30 years war

I bet that was pretty common when Christ was alive

actually

Christianity didn't have a new testament, it was the new testament, and it was still fucked for ages

Scrib, are you implying jews are uncivilized?

Not all Muslims are terrorists. Muhammad was.

maybe not 9, but soon after

average age was 30ish

had to mate young to have lots of offspring

jesus wasent peaceful

The Bible (forgot where it was) allows marryage between a 14 year old girl and 16 years for boys.

@LotheronPrime Ever heard about Aisha?

jesus lived under roman martial law

jesus was radical extremist

jesus was killed because the romans were worried he would start a revolution against them

and he basicly would have

Aisha's age is disputed even amongst islamic scholars

But not by much, a year or two

"Not much"

and does it matter if we talk about an 8 or 11 year old girl?

Some say she was 16

The islamic scriptures IIRC say that she was around 18 when Mohammed died.

Depends on whos interpreting them

Other sources put her at as young as 6 or 7

I love how people judge the past by modern standards.

^

She was 6 when she was promised to Mohammed.

Arranged marriage was like that...

wew lad this discussion

Loli is a taboo subject while it's fine to follow Islam. And why?

Cuz fans of loli won't commit violence. TEE HEE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFJJUXQGgYQ

@RyeNorth I don't, I judge it by what's happening today..

uhhhh

that was his point

sorry, misspoke

meant that I judge by how it is seen today by the believers.

Christians often distance themselves from the bad/violent parts of the Bible for example.

And how'd they get there?

A new testament.

Because every Christian interprets the bible in its own way and nobody takes it literally.

So yeah, you have to take a look at the Religion and judge it by what it does to the people!
And not all religions are equal. Some are good, some are not.

And yes, christian beliefs are often abused and misused by the preachers for personal benefits (Power or Money)....

All religions are shit, the only difference is the degree of the shit

New testament didn't do shit

No, some Religions are good and a net plus for the People.

And Stefan didn't answer my question.

The Problem often times doesn't lie in the Religion, its in the Institutions.

New testament is indicative of an overall effort to want to change for the future.

Islam doesn't do that.

And the Problems we have right now with the political divide wouldn't be happening if we still had a unifying religion.

--Egh.

A brain softening agent would sure soften our brains, yes.

And that is the job of the Religion: Unify the people and keep the beast in man in check.

You can't believe in something you don't, though.

The internet drags religion behind the shed with a shotgun.

It just does

Too much evidence.

What a bunch of crap.. religion is what arguably held back progress for centuries. Religion was used to destroy and divide people all over the earth.. please cease

Spanish Inquisition

Salem witch trials

The Problem is that most people can't live without religion. If they "don't learn" Religion (=Christianity or something else), their brain looks for other ways to worship.
That can be some Apple, a Letherjacket or political partys.

Crusades

Don't even come at me with institutions. It was the religiousness that allowed those institutions to capitalize on it and use it for whatever they pleased.

@Senny Not Religion, Religious Institutions. Mainly the Catholic Church.

The absolute state of the catholic fucking church two damn weeks ago.

Yes, the Catholic Church was the biggest evil we had in Europe. Because of the way it was used for power and abused the People. I agree with that.

Was?

You could argue that it still is.

Did you hear what one of the higher ups said about the rape scandal?

That they shouldn't judge the priests for their actions because they too have sinned.

Yes, that is why you should abolish the Catholic Church or at least demand that the Priests are Married.