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2018-08-27 05:57:40 UTC

pretty much.

2018-08-27 05:57:46 UTC

i mean the hiphop culture has been doing that with the N word for decades now

2018-08-27 05:57:47 UTC

drive out racism by removing the stigmas.

2018-08-27 05:57:49 UTC

its not working

2018-08-27 05:57:53 UTC

Exactly.

2018-08-27 05:58:10 UTC

It's not working because the activists are refusing to let anyone else use the word

2018-08-27 05:58:14 UTC

Even when singing Rap.

2018-08-27 05:58:15 UTC

i remember when Richard Prior retired the N word

2018-08-27 05:58:35 UTC

N word would be hardest to change.

2018-08-27 05:58:38 UTC

I mean, โ€œIndianโ€ for natives is almost considered a slur but most actual natives donโ€™t really care

2018-08-27 05:58:48 UTC

I bet the LGBT community would get the picture of what I said.

2018-08-27 05:58:55 UTC

Actually, we do need a new term for native americans.

2018-08-27 05:59:05 UTC

"Indian" is too easily confused with people from India

2018-08-27 05:59:07 UTC

it's sad that this is considered taboo now

2018-08-27 05:59:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/483515804185526272/Capture.PNG

2018-08-27 05:59:13 UTC

Disassociate Gay from LGBT community, turn it into a word that means Happy.

2018-08-27 05:59:19 UTC

We have injun

2018-08-27 05:59:25 UTC

savages

2018-08-27 05:59:35 UTC

See, I always thought that was just slang.

2018-08-27 05:59:57 UTC

Us native Americans could embrace the word. Making a simple word that represents our race.

2018-08-27 06:00:00 UTC

Instead of a racial slur.

2018-08-27 06:00:00 UTC

Savages doesn't work. Too broad and well defined already. Not to mention it's going with something needlessly offensive

2018-08-27 06:00:13 UTC

Native American is too clunky, Indian and Injun works well

2018-08-27 06:00:13 UTC

"Natives"?

2018-08-27 06:00:17 UTC

Disassociate it from "Savage"

2018-08-27 06:00:20 UTC

well in that Shaun of the Dead clip, it is just slang, a part of culture

2018-08-27 06:00:20 UTC

Natives is too broad

2018-08-27 06:00:27 UTC

It is kind of annoying typing "Native American"

2018-08-27 06:00:29 UTC

Constantly.

2018-08-27 06:00:31 UTC

A big part of the issue is that you would need something that's 2-3 syllables.

2018-08-27 06:00:36 UTC

Agreed.

2018-08-27 06:00:43 UTC

you could always type out American Indian, lol

2018-08-27 06:00:56 UTC

Native American is 16 letters and 6 syllables

2018-08-27 06:00:58 UTC

It matters.

2018-08-27 06:01:10 UTC

Hence why no one says โ€œAfrican-Americansโ€

2018-08-27 06:01:15 UTC

Way too long.

2018-08-27 06:01:32 UTC

well most black people dont like being called AA and prefer to be called black

2018-08-27 06:01:53 UTC

On the flip side, we could decide not to separate them out at all, in which having a word would be irrelevant.

2018-08-27 06:01:54 UTC

Just have a push to disassociate racial slurs from their meaning, then give them new meanings which would eliminate the offensive usages of the words.

2018-08-27 06:02:00 UTC

American Indian is even worse than Native American because itโ€™s confusing and easy to mix up with Indian-American

2018-08-27 06:02:22 UTC

Amind?

2018-08-27 06:02:22 UTC

many Native Americans call themselves American Indian actually

2018-08-27 06:02:33 UTC

Just shorten American Indian?

2018-08-27 06:02:48 UTC

Naticans.

2018-08-27 06:02:49 UTC

>.>

2018-08-27 06:02:52 UTC

i like that

2018-08-27 06:03:01 UTC

Amind or Naticans

2018-08-27 06:03:18 UTC

but Amind is a terrible thing to waste..

2018-08-27 06:03:22 UTC

My dadโ€™s an Okie with a bit of Cherokee and just goes with Indian

2018-08-27 06:03:23 UTC

Naticans doesn't roll out right, IMO. Too many dissonant consonants.

2018-08-27 06:03:36 UTC

I rather just co-op the racial slurs.

2018-08-27 06:03:39 UTC

Turn them into good things.

2018-08-27 06:03:41 UTC

Sounds like Vatican.

2018-08-27 06:03:46 UTC

i like Naticans, sounds like a baseball team

2018-08-27 06:04:00 UTC

It does two things.

2018-08-27 06:04:17 UTC

It destroys racial slurs, by making them into good things. But also gives us new terms that could be used to describe us.

2018-08-27 06:04:23 UTC

For foreign individuals.

2018-08-27 06:04:35 UTC

and takes away all the power from the racists

2018-08-27 06:04:50 UTC

There isn't always a racial equivalent word for foreign nations.

2018-08-27 06:04:54 UTC

the solution to hate speech is more speech

2018-08-27 06:05:04 UTC

I mean wasnt that what nigga was supposed to be?

2018-08-27 06:05:16 UTC

Now they get offended if the guy saying it isnt black.

2018-08-27 06:05:28 UTC

So the issue is that if that's the strategy, you can't enforce taboo.

2018-08-27 06:05:38 UTC

It is a term of endearment for blacks, but racial slur if another race says it.

2018-08-27 06:05:47 UTC

well it was fine for white people to say it for a short time because of hiphop culture but then SJW culture happened

2018-08-27 06:05:51 UTC

It turned into an way to have double meaning, double speak, to claim victim mentality.

2018-08-27 06:05:52 UTC

Because when you enforce taboo or use it asymmetrically, it remains a slur.

2018-08-27 06:06:03 UTC

i mean look at that scene in Shaun of the Dead, that came out in 2004

2018-08-27 06:06:29 UTC

Because someone based an assumption on race

2018-08-27 06:06:37 UTC

If you see a white guy say wassup my nigga

2018-08-27 06:06:45 UTC

it's because these SJW types aren't actually interested in making things better the just want to control people

2018-08-27 06:06:45 UTC

vs a black guy saying the exact same shit

2018-08-27 06:06:47 UTC

Best way to take down racial terms, is to take the sting out of them and change the word itself. The racists wouldn't have any other terms anymore.

2018-08-27 06:06:58 UTC

They would have a hard time using that word because people would associate it with something else.

2018-08-27 06:07:10 UTC

Yeah, basically.

2018-08-27 06:07:33 UTC

They would have to create new terms and those words wouldn't have any sting behind them.

2018-08-27 06:07:41 UTC

Because they probably wouldn't catch on in this day and age.

2018-08-27 06:07:48 UTC

sheeit i still use the N word around some of my friends, not with the hard R obvs

2018-08-27 06:07:50 UTC

You know.. that reminds me

2018-08-27 06:07:53 UTC

And this gets back to how racism can be a two way street. Discrimination in any direction, positive or negative, breeds racism in response.

2018-08-27 06:07:56 UTC

Like the word moron

2018-08-27 06:08:02 UTC

Which used to be a medical term

2018-08-27 06:08:09 UTC

So they made retarded

2018-08-27 06:08:16 UTC

Linguistics is weird.

2018-08-27 06:08:19 UTC

Because people used moron as an insult

2018-08-27 06:08:23 UTC

Then guess what

2018-08-27 06:08:30 UTC

And now retard is an insult.

2018-08-27 06:08:30 UTC

People started using retarded as a result.

2018-08-27 06:08:31 UTC

but i grew up when gangsta rap was being born so its kind of a part of my culture even though i am a whitey

2018-08-27 06:08:33 UTC

WE should definitely start co-oping these words.

2018-08-27 06:08:36 UTC

@Joey4Track (POLEMIC HEART) I call my friends racial slurs but not ones that apply to them (ex. calling my token black friend a cracker).

2018-08-27 06:08:41 UTC

So they made shit like mentally disabled

2018-08-27 06:08:43 UTC

If I can get others of my race, others of other races to co-op these words.

2018-08-27 06:08:56 UTC

Turn them into positive, we could make headway I think.

2018-08-27 06:08:57 UTC

Which words?

2018-08-27 06:08:57 UTC

I call my friends faggots all the time

2018-08-27 06:09:05 UTC

Thoguh I suspect one actually is gay

2018-08-27 06:09:09 UTC

my school was 85% black so everyone said nigga and it was no thing

2018-08-27 06:09:20 UTC

back in the 90's

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