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Cliffs notes, maybe Amorphis lyrics?
I am also not familiar with that haha
School me
Everyone knows the White Horse motif, but I'm fascinated by the Swan in Kalevala, it also had huge influence in Hinduism (Saraswati), and even in the Arthurian legend.
Lemminkรคinen was cut into pieces and pieced back together like Osiris as he attempted to slay the swan crossing the river into the underworld. Reading up about swans in aryan mythology atm.
I feel like I'm talking to Aryan Pod People lol
So what do you wanna know, esoteric hitlerism, kalevala, etc?
Yeah I was talking about that white horse just recently. All world mythos lead to a singular truth.
Just a short briefing of it all.
Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.
Very interesting stuff, and I thought I was a bit of a scholar on this.
Well, @Kombat-Unit is the only person in existence who could explain something like that in a single post in Discord, so I'll leave him to it.
I could quote Serrano himself about โThree fundamental positions of Esoteric Hitlerism". From Golden Thread, where else.
"The position that all of these concepts and narratives are purely symbolic for the inner processes of the soul towards liberation/transcendence
The position that these things are the โas aboveโ equivalents for the real world โso belowโ concepts that do/did really exist, like Hyperborea and Atlantis, and this position drives people to establish a Golden Age on Earth (he associates Evolaโs direction with this via Evolaโs promotion of an esoteric order/aristocracy establishing an organic state and etc)
Lastly: โbesides these two directions which seem to be different, there is also a third one, that contains the previous ones and reconciles themโ
Well, might be still too esoteric.
To put it as simply as I can, all Aryans share a collective spirituality, and we have only forgotten our connection due to the corruption of blood memory. All our myths and faiths are the same, with only minor variations of different volksgeists.
Esoteric Hitlerism is about discovering this deep connection, and restoration of Golden Age.
That's perfect.
It's hard for me to explain some of that stuff to "Solid Earth" National Socialists. I spend so much time talking with the hollow earth subset.
God, Kalevala resonates so amazingly with Esoteric Hitlerism. "The Northland" was usually seen as the land of the dead. Much like Heracles, Lemminkรคinen in the role of the god of war goes to "hades" to retreive his love and learns secrets during his journey. The water is also an important symbol. Water typically represents the passions and material existence. It represents transcendence above the crudely material, which is why figures walk on water in several myths. Also the leader of Finnish pagan rites was half-submerged in water as he made an offering to the Gods of air, symbolic meaning that hes a medium between the otherwordly and wordly. Also, the attempt to kill the swan crossing the river could be seen as an attempt to disrupt natural order, since swans represented the soul travelling from material world to the underworld, netherworld.
God, I could keep on doing this all day.
https://kansakunnanomaisuutta.fi/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/gallen-kallela-Aino_01.jpg
I really like this piece of Kalevala art, water motif. And also swastikas.
Also the part where Ilmarinen forges a wife out of Gold, and destroys her at the suggestion of Vรคinรคmรถinen, and instead goes to the north, to the land of the dead, to seek a wife, and for a quest of wisdom, and eventually reclaims Sun and Moonlight stolen by the mistress of the north. It's just so heavy with symbolism I could keep going on and on.
That's amazing! I was just recently making the connection between EH and Kalevala. I was trying to explain the Cosmic Egg to someone...
You should really do some writing about the parallels there. I don't see it mentioned in anything I've read before. It's important, I think.
Smiths have allways been revered as magicians, wise men, the men bending the power of nature to their will utilizing all the elements. It's also interesting that the story of Wayland the Smith places Wayland's home in Finland, and he marries a swan maiden as well. And the cosmic egg you mentioned. Just so many things to analyze.
Also the thing Vรคinรคmรถinen said of materialism resonates now as strongly as it did in the Bronze Age: "Magic brother, wonder-forger,
Throw the virgin to the furnace,
To the flames, thy golden image,
Forge from her a thousand trinkets.
Take the image into Ehstland,
Take her to the plains of Pohya,
That for her the mighty powers
May engage in deadly contest,
Worthy trophy for the victor;
Not for me this bride of wonder,
Neither for my worthy people.
I shall never wed an image
Born from many magic metals,
Never wed a silver maiden,
Never wed a golden virgin."
Then the hero of the waters
Called together all his people,
Spake these words of ancient wisdom:
"Every child of Northland, listen,
Whether poor, or fortune-favored:
Never bow before an image
Born of molten gold and silver:
Never while the sunlight brightens,
Never while the moonlight glimmers,
Choose a maiden of the metals,
Choose a bride from gold created
Cold the lips of golden maiden,
Silver breathes the breath of sorrow."
I love that. ๐I guess, being an EH and a metalsmith how could I not?
http://www.dana-mad.ru/gal/images/Fairy-tales/Kalevala/nicolai%20kochergin_kalevala_15_ilmarinen%20makes%20a%20new%20wife%20of%20silver%20and%20gold_01.jpg
Always really loved the art as well, even way before Hitler.
And I bet you do โค
I was always curious about Wayland. I've studied historical metallurgy for a number of years. I actually have more books about historical metallurgy than NS or EH combined. That's a great picture. Who did it?
Nikolai Kochergin, here's a bunch of his Kalevala related art, love it: http://book-graphics.blogspot.fi/2015/11/kalevala-illustrator-nikolai-kochergin.html
Thanks y'all. This was very enlightening to me.
Those drawings are magical. They almost don't look like they were done by a Russian.
Anyhow, good night, guys.
They're from a book published in Karelian SSR so might be a native after all.
Same to you. Nite.
Hey.
Just got the Nevada Chapter established.
Is there a file containing the TWP Propaganda? Thanks.
Yep, tradworker.org has high quality propaganda.
Alright then.
Thanks ๐
Brothers, add me on FB. Colton Streicher. Photo is me hailing the dawn.
Adding but different name.
At yesterday's regional meet, I gave a small statement and Im glad to say Ive climbed aboard. โกHail Victoryโก
๐๐ผ
Ever notice how there are no red-haired emojis?
Thats autistic screech-worthy. Marginalized gingers!
Right! Every color of brown, but no gingers.
https://youtu.be/3sq9oQivijg
Why isn't this every nationalist's favorite band?
I don't dig power metal, but whatever gets folks into Nationalism is good. I like Amon Amarth for that reason. I've been digging the new Nokturnal Mortum : Folksy Ukrainian NSBM. https://youtu.be/6ycy57X2cB8
@AltCelt(IL) glad to hear you performed the blood sacrifice. The CVLT grows!
Preach DD.
Oh yeah, Dark Fury and Goatmoon split comin ๐ โ๐ป
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/269228782324416523/333645100737495041/652ce0c1-20f2-40e8-af15-0da6f298db67.jpg
Moloth is based, promoted "Traditionalism, Julius Evola and Rene Guenon: How the Esoteric Becomes Political" lecture in Azov's Cossack House in Kiev. Would have been fun to visit
https://www.facebook.com/m8l8th.division/photos/pcb.1537653272923711/1537649879590717/?type=3&theater
Nice!
Yeah, love how they're active in the political scene promoting their ideas, and not only through music.
That's awesome. "Discussing the role of Black Metal in future state policy". ๐ค.
You can be appointed Minister of Black Metal in future white homeland of America.
State sanctioned NSBM, awesome.
Doesn't Norway have a minister of metal? Or did I just dream that?
I don't think so, but it will when we come to power.
I never post American NSBM. It exists. https://youtu.be/6Ogxy1hcT54
Enfold Darkness is the best metal band imo, skill level wise.
They're from TN, I know them well. The main writer is an esoteric scholar for sure.
@โฆColton of Yoreโฆ Never heard, are they NSBM?
Yeah, those guys are good at what they do.
Not NSBM.
Grand Belial's Key is an interesting American....maybe not NSBM but 100% anti-Jew. No one else sounds like them, for sure.
By the way, funny that you brought up Nokturnal Mortum, just listened to them yesterday. Just like Satanic Warmaster, they're one of those "I love Hitler but totes not political."
"Not even political...alright, next we're playing 'Hailed be the heroes'"
Enfold's first album is off the wall with technical black/death metal skill.
Also they played with M8l8th and Varggoth was in a band called "Aryan Terrorism"
not political tho
They aren't NSBM. But the main writer is woke.
Satanic Warmaster is NSBM. Why else would I listen to them. Same with Nokturnal Mortum.
The main catch for me in NSBM is the NS part.
Yeah, it's like, no one even cares, just say you're a nazi breh.
Also Varggoth was in RAC band Warhead.
Yeah, they'd probably write better music and lyrics if they weren't trying to hide all the Nazi stuff between the lines.
Yeah I mean, the funny part is that they're not even hiding nazism, either of the bands, it's blatant as fuck, frankly. But still when asked they're totally nonchalant like "Yeah we're not political" like...really? ๐ I guess they jump through the hoops to be able to play abroad and wherever but yeah.
Like Werwolf even sold CDs to some guys from my local chapter. We know he doesn't give a fuck, reds know he doesn't give a fuck, he knows we know he doesn't give a fuck.
Goatmoon is cool, he just surfs to the stage wearing swastika flag. He's awesome.
I guess, if they want to play outside a few select countries, they have to be pretty careful. I get it, but I don't like it.
Funnily enough, they're all so racist they refuse to play in non-white countries still, so it's only for a show for some white cucks. Graveland has gone full poz and even throws gigs in like Bolivia or something.
Canucks were more offended by Graveland than fucking bolivians lol
Graveland got a whole metal fest shut down in Montreal last year. Thanks, Antifa. But, yeah, they're not even that good. I just love them because they're Nazis.
Stormheit is woke too, I'm not that into folk but he straight up in interview told straight up he's fucking tired of posers in the BM "scene" who can mock Allah and King of the Jews but shit their pants if they should make fun of the "Chosen people".
Yeah, exactly right.
What's the deal with Graveland though, aren't they like legit legit "non political" now since they throw gigs in non-white countries. What's the deal.
Can't offend the likes of you want to be big rock stars like 1349 someday.
*kikes
Graveland hasn't been political in some time, I guess.
"Most transgressive genre ever, so edgy, so radical, fuck you mom and dad, fuck you church, fuck you Jesus, fuck the muslims, fuck the cross.."
- "And fuck the KIKES"
"Wow, just wow, you crossed a line. This was a civilized, nice, safe black metal space before you had to bring a minority oppressed for 2000 years into this. Please leave."
That sums it up. Exactly.
The problem I have with most NS music is it isn't good technically.
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