And yeah, dad is now cancer free but surgery took a big toll on him, I now work as a full time career for him, we haven’t got the most homely home but we get by xD

@Abbysol I'll add everything you say then, lol

@Men Are Human that sounds awful and I repeat myself a lot but sure xD

XD

So where do you guys belong to?

England, me

America

Australia

I'm guessing we're strong, independent men, so we don't actually belong 😃

I'm Romanian.

@Sugipula That sounds bad. They do talk a big game, but maybe we can beat them if it's only in the early stages of the crazy

Ah Romania !

Love it. I have been there once

I belong to India btw

Nice to meet you.

Same :)

My brother worked in India for a while, he sent me lots of tea and I was happy

I love you guys

I feel like I belong somewhere finally

Assamese tea is the best

We love you too, there will always be a place here for you :3

Assamese tea> Yorkshire tea

Sorry @Men Are Human

@Bobby_Hill we are a family that texts together!

It's been 3 hrs or so since I have joined and here I am, making a new family. The Internet is a wholesome place at times

@Vhiskey It's grown in Yorkshire, damnit!

I can't wait for this place to grow and become bigger and better

Let's be honest, the internet is filled with insane people.

Yeah true

@Sugipula lies

But I fear it will be besieged by misandrists one day

Everyone is a little insane, just as long as it is the good kind of insane

@Bobby_Hill somewhere down I feel this should remain as it is

Like the caterpillar kind of insane

Is this a relatively new chat? It's the first time I see it mentioned in the subreddit.

I guess it is

Yes, it is relatively new, but growing fast

Long time reddit lurker

I've never posted anything

There are autoban bots use by some other subs that will ban you if you post in “undesirable” subs, so lurking may not be the worst idea xD

I know.

I lurk around r/askwomen just so I can see all the shallow things people post and casual Misandry

I've never been banned by a bot for posting in men's rights... But I've seen some subs use your post history to jusify a ban if you decide to visit and post in them

I went on ask women once, I feel like most the people there have zero self awareness

It's good that they do though really. I mean, nothing screams that a sub isn't a great place to be if it bans you just for having a contrary opinion and isn't even willing to address it

The topmost place for locating misandry is troll xx

I see the MGTOW/ MRA movements growing.

I don’t have a lot of love for MGTOW though xD

Why is that?

Mgtow is inherently misogynist

I've been lurking both for the last 2 years.

MGTOW really don’t like women

How is it inherently misogynist

Because they actually hate women to some extent

The vast generalisation of women sucks kind of

It's the alternate version of "all men are rapists"

MGTOW is not activism, they are men, usually who have been hurt badly by a women and have decided all women are like that and they want nothing to do with them

I don't know a great deal about the sub itself. I don't disagree with the general philosophy behind MGTOW though

MGTOW was made as a direct response to extreme forms of feminism

They're free individuals. They can do as they please....as long as they don't harm other individuals.

The philosophy of mgtow is flawed in general. Humans are social creatures and complete abstinence of contact with the other gender is often bad for us and may lead to a sad mental state

It's alright to give up on women and just try and live happily without being in relationships with them

If anything they hate women just as much a radfems hate men

Both men and women require each other to some extent.

Shush! A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle 😛

Separation doesn’t work, the gender war is dumb and we should all get along and work together xD

Thats the point

Yeah well when artificial wombs become a thing we won't need them for anything

As I understand it they see that women fail a cost-benefit analysis when it comes to being with them. Choosing not to be with them doesn't mean they hate them, just that it's not worth the time

Science will make them obsolete

You can have women friends and be MGTOW

I mean yeah, guys should refrain from dating psycho chicks and gold diggers. But no relationship with women seems crazy to say the least

@Vhiskey so they aren't entitled to personal choice?

I'm not MGTOW, I'm just a lurker.

The golden rule: don’t stick dick in crazy

@Abbysol so don't stick your dick in 95 percent of women?

There are lots of mentally ill people

They are actually. All I am saying is that they should reconsider their personal choice as it isn't in coherence with the best interest for them in the long run. If they still want to go for it. Sure they should @InsaneCaterpilla

Numbers keep growing

I just personally don’t like MGTOW, they haven’t treated me kindly in the past and I also don’t like the turning your back on the problems, I believe problems should be addressed

Yeah it's kinda retarded to think you can just ignore the issue of women acting like shit to men and expecting them to change

I don't think they should have to reconsider it. As long as they aren't hurting anyone they should be able to live their life that way without judgements from others. If the particular MGTOW actually hates women as a whole then at best I'd say they are misguided and at worst stupid, ignorant, and misogynistic. But deciding not to bother with women in committed relationships isn't something that I'd consider wrong.

You need to confront the issue/s if you want things to actually change

I agree with it whole heartedly

But, isn't it polite for a person to spot others wrongdoings. But then it's their personal choice and the loop goes on.

If you're a friend maybe it is, but it isn't inherently a wrong thing to do

You know I am enjoying these kind of healthy debates in here. I'm not sure if I could do the same talking on a mgtow forum

Thats my personal concern but its alright. Each to their own.

I don't think they're that radical.

I have seen some really poor views there. Again, not pulling out a blanket statement but that's my experience.

Yeah, some of them even talk shit about their own mothers.

I just got a call from this random woman I added as a friend a year ago... Nothing good happens at 3am

Heh

They are not radical, they just went to be left alone, it does result in a bit of a circle jerk that wouldn’t be a problem if people could understand that they are not MRAs, a lot of what they say gets pulled and labeled as MRA beliefs

Exactly.

What about the Incel Revolution

I have never read the Incel subreddit.

Cringe at its finest xD

I think they're mostly edgy boys.

There isn't an incel sub, it was banned I believe

When will the next Elliot Rodgers ride into our lives?