And it's unrealistic to go through a consent document and things still to feel sexy

Lol that's right as well.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@InsaneCaterpilla It is, but at this point it seems like we need to stop letting them ban stuff like this

But then there is no other way to proof consent, is it?

Unless you are wearing a cam all day long

I mean, the document I'm envisioning would have a place to sign afterwards too

Also: on video

To be hones - you guys are right - probably wouldn't work in theory

*in practice

It's a he said she said thing yes. I'm not against recording sexual relations tbh, but as long as we can make sure the law stays innocent until proven guilty, and get rid of ridiculous campus kangaroo courts than assume you are guilty under a preponderance of evidence standard, there is no need for any consent document

Oh, btw, we should really be having this conversation in <#523922218200203265>

Morally weak values lead to all of this. We can't tame people to be morally equipped but sure we can provide them with that sort of education early on.

@Vhiskey @InsaneCaterpilla That's a fair point, both of you.

I don't know about you guys but females in general crave attention. I'm guilty to that myself. And that's why we see so many false accusations being made during the me too movement. It's like an instant ticket to spotlight. Although morally correct females don't do that.

I would like to think I wouldn’t do that xD

But I will agree, I can be a proper attention ho sometimes

Also hai

Hai?

You mean hi?

Yeah, is a silly way to pronounce/spell it

Don’t think too much about it, just more memes

Lol im not equipped to handle your memes dear sir.

Anyways hai 🙆

Sir Abbysol, *adjusts monocle*, what thinkest you of this our new visitor, old chap

I am a madam actually my good sir xD

😂

:< you shoulda just gone along with me xD

You guys are funny

That would be just cruel

*Awkward silence*

Did you see the troll we got today? First real one I seen in here unless I missed one already, lol.

I'm almost disappointed they didn't stick around to say more than one thing

What are you guys talking about?

Include me in

There was someone who joined just to call everyone in here man children who hate MeToo because they can’t get laid and then left

Lol

Yeah, that’s all he said then he was gone

I don't understand why not getting laid is an insult. I mean its fine. Getting laid is overrated anyways.

Sorry, hitting on girls is apparently wrong now, not getting laid xD

Haha

I don't like it when guys treat me like a sensitive nuclear material ready to blow up whenever they ask me out lol.

He literally called you a meninist, that's such an odd term. Pardon me but I am new to these terminologies. It's awkwardly funny.

Feminism has this weird warped idea where they say men and women should be equal but they tend to put women in Cotten wool wrapping because needs to feel safe

Meninist is a bit of a joke term, kind of like a reverse of Feminist, no one uses that term, it’s dumb and to accept it would be to say we are in direct contrast to feminism.

You are spot on with that

I have been banned from many feminist and women subs on reddit just for being active in the MR sub

Tying into what you say abbysol, I'm of the opinion that feminists focus way too much on what women as a whole are, rather than seeing them as individuals. They're so wrapped up in gender politics they don't see the trees for the forest sometimes

Yeah, you put it better then me xD

Everyone has a personal agenda here tbh. We can't trust anyone blindly.

Well would be silly to think anyone doesn’t have a personal agenda, the problem comes from when that agenda starts to harm others

I mean every personal agenda would be harmful to a certain group of people, isn't it? I mean do any such agenda exist which isn't offensive towards a group?

I mean a personal agenda isn’t inherently a bad thing, depends on the agenda

You guys handled them well though. We need to talk to these people instead of banning or kicking them. In fact, it would be even better to address them by @ name so they get notified.

@Men Are Human people did I think, but they had already left

Like for example MRAs have an agenda of uplifting men. But, some sort of feminists feel their work is bad. So they are hurt by this agenda. We can rephrase the sentence as that we can have an agenda as long as it is offering the wrong persons and not the right ones.

@InsaneCaterpilla Oh yeah you may have. They deleted their invite, it seems

I wouldn't say our agenda is to uplift men, but it does have that effect. It's to put men back on a level playing field with women when it comes to rights and responsibilities

Sorry for that. I'm not that used to with the wording here.

There was a good tweet I saw a while ago about that, feminists want all the benefits of men with none of the responsibility or something like that

Don't be sorry, no one was offended

:)

Don’t worry, we all mess up our wording something chronic and always get misunderstood xD

@Abbysol yea, that's often how it seems... It's like feminists want women to be 50% of the CEO's and whatnot, without actually having to earn a place there

Btw do you guys have visited this sub called the menslib or something similar. They forbid dissent completely, they even ban people for disagreeing

It's a feminist sub

Oh yeah, they are just male feminists

I’m banned there too

I think we're all banned there, lol

Some of us multiple times

Wait the other day I saw a comment where there were awkward replies. Like real awkward

Lemme link that up

I'm not banned there but I never posted there. Still banned from legaladviceuk for a bit, think I'm unbanned from offmychest now, was only a 5 day ban that one

So I got a little story to tell. And a question r...

https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/a3yxbn/weekly_free_talk_friday_thread/eba91jl?utm_source=reddit-android

@BadPharaoh Hello!

Oh wait you all are banned right

Lemme post a screen shot

The discord link doesn’t auto log me into my account so I can see it.

Also I’m on my phone

Hello, just testing

@Abbysol @InsaneCaterpilla

@BadPharaoh#4368 Go right ahead

Oh yes, feminist trying to justify a violent female, always a good show

That one guy who called the poster for calling the guy a man and the girl a girl

@Vhiskey you will find that a lot of the women in the MRM are here because they where abused by another women, and then to hear people downplay it or outright try to justify it is one of the most heartbreaking things to hear

I see.

I feel like one of the major aspects of the MRM is to see women who are abusive or criminal to get equal punishment to their male equivalents, something more personal to me since I grew up with an abusive mother, family courts decided that my dad wasn’t good enough for custody and I didn’t get to see him much growing up.

Hey guys!

I was just reading the subreddit and I thought I should give this a shot.

My mum kicked me out of home when I was only 16, when my dad found out he came up and got me, he was also homeless from how much Child Support was shaking him down, he then got cancer and while he was in hospital child support came after him, and because I didn’t want interest to build, I ended up pay for my own child support to my mother for about a year.

Also welcome @Sugipula 😃

That sounds terrible, Abbysol.

@Abbysol I feel so sorry for you. I hope you are okay.

@Abbysol Mind if I add that to your entry on the site?

If you want, you can use anything I say if you want xD

I have never been a victim. Feminism isn't popular in Eastern Europe, but it's starting to grow.