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2018-08-20 00:20:16 UTC


2018-08-20 00:21:51 UTC


2018-08-20 00:22:25 UTC

but dont waste your time too much with him sometimes you gotta ignore cancers you seem to have observed him since a long time

2018-08-20 00:23:07 UTC

facts problems is the white ppl studying in my class think he's a true representation of islam

2018-08-20 00:23:13 UTC

i said no

2018-08-20 00:23:19 UTC

mans tried to debate me smh

2018-08-20 00:23:30 UTC

i proved em with facts and links

2018-08-20 00:23:38 UTC

they still dont believe me

2018-08-20 00:23:50 UTC

shite i admit that can be problematic

2018-08-20 00:24:55 UTC

but most people in the world when they study islam they are nto gonna study some shia hated by most muslims you kno wonder how you landed in this class, maybe show em tweets where he's toxic or blatantly attacks islam

2018-08-20 00:49:22 UTC

its funny exmuzzies/right wings/secularist hate on london mayor sadiq khan when had propaganda of him being muslim

2018-08-20 00:49:28 UTC

when he is not actually one

2018-08-20 00:53:49 UTC

yeah saw he actually supported fagpride

2018-08-20 00:54:07 UTC

saw photos too where he was walkin along with lgbt activists in gay prides

2018-08-20 00:54:19 UTC

so he definitely not really muslim

2018-08-20 02:14:42 UTC

What a degenerate. I always assumed that Sadiq Khan was a Muslim.

2018-08-20 10:28:16 UTC

@carlos are you a programmer? Says so on the twitter if I'm not mistaken.

2018-08-20 10:35:29 UTC

no dude the brown ppl r all muslim n white ppl r all secularists n progressive

2018-08-20 10:35:47 UTC

Mainstream meteor guy told me so

2018-08-20 14:39:45 UTC

yea mate

2018-08-20 14:39:59 UTC

sometimes im programmin yep

2018-08-20 14:40:20 UTC

Maintestream meteor guy s wrong

2018-08-20 14:47:44 UTC

What language? Why don't we team up and do some project? Something that can help muslims get a job. I studied with some super smart muslims who got top grades, but they were the last people to get a job. Likely because they were Muslim. I know Python, Javascript and a little bit of Java and C#. I am a data scientist. A little hobby project for fun and possibly profit? Unless you hate the idea of bringing work home

2018-08-20 14:52:50 UTC

Right now I'm mostly testing and using C++, and sure why not but since you're a data scientist I don't think I have your level since I just do it like a hobby during my free time, but didn't know that you were a data scientist what exactly is it ? Does it have something to do with handling large amounts of data in like MySQL servers or something

2018-08-20 14:53:12 UTC

but I have already used C#, Java and Javascript, never really dug into Python tho

2018-08-20 15:27:37 UTC

Yes, mostly database stuff, statistics and that sort of thing. I know a little bit of machine learning. But have done a little bit of development. Maybe we could make a Web app? Any ideas? I have a few. My best idea is a Uber for restaurants. Because all the best restaurants that have take-away do not have delivery. Could make a business where people order food delivered and can order food from any place that do not have deliveries? Maybe? All sorts of stuff we could do. But let's brainstorm. If it is fun to make then it is much easier to make a business out of it.

2018-08-20 15:29:57 UTC

There's a similar app like that called Postmates, but rn it's only on big cities

2018-08-20 15:30:43 UTC

Ah can confirm seems like someone had the idea before you man


2018-08-20 15:30:53 UTC

An machine learning ? Isn't that artificial intelligence ? Wow really nice man

2018-08-20 15:32:12 UTC

And I agree Web app seems a really good idea since it seems portative to me like you can access it from a computer or a phone since it's a web app instead of having to code a mobile app then a Windows application and then we'll just need to detect the platform and readjust the screen and how things show on it depending on the platform

2018-08-20 15:32:33 UTC

Hmm I don't have much ideas for now, I'll think about it and tell you when I have ideas i judge as good

2018-08-20 15:35:07 UTC

It would be neato if someone made a app for phones that blocked haraam websites on chrome and whatever browser comes with the phone

2018-08-20 15:35:52 UTC

Facebook was a copy of MySpace. Just because someone invented a variant does not mean that it is the best. McDonald's is a copy of white castle. But yeah, just keep it in mind. Something fully on the Internet would be the best. Maybe a Muslim 4chan. Haha... I love 4chan, but too much degeneracy. Or maybe something that blocked haram, yeah.

2018-08-20 15:36:47 UTC

I think there are addons on chrome which block seks sites and things like that on chrome and firefox

2018-08-20 15:36:52 UTC

But that seems like a good idea

2018-08-20 15:37:01 UTC

Webapps can also easily become regular apps these days.

2018-08-20 15:37:12 UTC

And yeah you're right kaizer it's not because someone already has the idea that we can't make it we would just do it andcompete with them

2018-08-20 15:38:00 UTC

as for a muslim 4chan there's a muslim board on 8chan you kno https://8ch.net/islam/index.html they dont allow haram pics but it's not very very much active

2018-08-20 15:48:21 UTC

I don't think there is a lot of money in blocking haram though. Unless we make some sort of easy way to set up such blocks on WiFi. Should be possible as a webapp, no? At least people who don't know a lot would likely want a easy way to do it to keep their children from haram. Can be scary to go into the admin page for the wireless router.

2018-08-20 15:49:24 UTC

For people who don't know a lot. Make a general easy-to-use interface that keeps updated with the local routers. Maybe.

2018-08-20 15:51:31 UTC

Yes I see what you mean, easy-to-use so that it may be accessible to most people, and I'm sure there's a way to do what you're saying like trying to check network traffick and blocking if the target website is blacklisted or something, but how could we make money from this ? Using ads ? Or making it a paid application ? Or adding a premium option ?

2018-08-20 15:57:58 UTC

Hmm... Wouldn't seem like a good way to get cash. What about a variant of shopify that integrates well with tons of payment options. Even crypto. People are always looking for a easy to use shop and we could provide a limited free version. Cool templates and that sort of thing. And maybe a amazon/etsy-style shop front that includes the products people add on their own small websites? Amazon is a good business with pretty much no competition.

2018-08-20 16:30:00 UTC

Why not

2018-08-20 16:30:20 UTC

I got to say you're creative I don't know how you find so much good ideas

2018-08-20 16:36:27 UTC

Before I became Muslim I was a professional artist. After becoming Muslim I started studying engineering. But I can still easily make my mind wander and then suddenly go "that's not a bad idea". I still paint as a hobby, but engineering pays way more than art.


2018-08-20 16:42:06 UTC

So wanna make a shopify variant?

2018-08-20 16:42:58 UTC

Sure man why not, and damn that's beautiful, you did that ?

2018-08-20 16:43:33 UTC

I recall last time you wrote that you studied engineering because Islam required you to be the provider and being an artist didn't make enough money right ?

2018-08-20 16:45:23 UTC

Making a Shopfiy variant is a good idea but I don't have any experience in security with accounts and passwords, I did host a MySQL Server once with a database and a website with register and login, passwords weren't encrypted tho so I could see it in plain text when registered

2018-08-20 16:46:04 UTC

but that shouldn't be a problem tho I guess that's how you learn

2018-08-20 16:51:16 UTC

Yeah I painted that. Just sketching it took 40+ hours and I sprayed chemicals on it so that it didn't rub off when I painted on top. But the chemicals was for coal and not color pen that I used so the sketch melted off and I almost ruined the whole sketch and had to redo most of it. Ever since then I started sketching on computer and print it out on canvas because it is a pain and a lot more work than it looks. Can't see the sketch with paint on top. I did it because of the money yes. I don't have experience with security either. We need to give clear roles and responsibilities. But both should probably keep security in mind. It is integral and if we have problems with it then the company is ruined.

Have you used Trello? Slack? Any project management tools you like? Have you used git?

2018-08-20 16:52:38 UTC

Nope I've never used those because never did a really serious project, as I told you when I program it's mostly hobby and messing around, I do have a github account tho but I don't really use it

2018-08-20 16:53:53 UTC

Here's a project I programmed months ago but abandonned since then, it was a prototype for a tile-based game, it was web-based so in JavaScript


2018-08-20 16:55:04 UTC

I have managed to do infinite procedural generation and multiplayer so it was synchronized with a server

2018-08-20 16:55:17 UTC

Used perlin noise to generate mountains (not shown on this screenshot tho)

2018-08-20 16:58:16 UTC

I have been in projects, but never really started one. You made a game, that is great. Have you used git? It has a learning curve, but is fantastic for collaboration projects. Www.udacity.com has a free course in how to use git where you learn 99.999% of what you will ever use. (which is about 1% of what git can do). I feel we should use Trello and Slack. Trello is free forever and great to create tasks that need to be done and so on.

2018-08-20 16:58:33 UTC

and here's a screenshot of another project I did but abandonned it was basically like minecraft you know cubes, 3D using OpenGL, this one wasn't web-based it was in C++ i basically wanted to make my own MineAutist game but then after 6 months (of course with not much time because school) i realized it was too big and I should try again latter with more experience in programming because you kno using bare OpenGL, no graphic engine/game engine making everything yourself is huge, take lots of time


2018-08-20 16:58:40 UTC

No never used git

2018-08-20 16:58:44 UTC

Just made an account tho

2018-08-20 16:58:46 UTC

but nothing in it

2018-08-20 16:59:02 UTC

Alright i'll check it

2018-08-20 17:00:10 UTC

For this one generating chunks was really complicated, my biggest challenge was optimizing time so that chunks would generate as fast as possible

2018-08-20 17:00:29 UTC

Git makes the job much easier. You will see how useful it is and if you are ever going to work with programming then I bet it is pretty much required to know at least one version control system. Git is the most popular.

2018-08-20 17:01:19 UTC

Alright I will try to test it out a bit and mess with it just to learn before seriously using it then

2018-08-20 17:02:18 UTC

Your games look like good attempts. When we make a shopify variant then we need to make a 'minimum viable product'. So there is a bit of planning before we can start working. The git course is relatively short and you learn pretty much everything you need.

2018-08-20 17:04:09 UTC

Git is great in case I mess up and delete important code, save and then upload it to the repository or to see why something stopped working between versions and many other things. Will save us months of work between versions.

2018-08-20 17:05:33 UTC

Mhm alright it's very complete has lots of features, I remember there was a system with "forks" or something where you could make sort of alternative versions and the remerge it with the main version latter on

2018-08-20 17:07:17 UTC

What should we call the project? Even a project codename that we can call the trello board and repository. Yes, git is super complete (and complex) and the people who made it were very bright people. You will be amazed the more you learn about it.

2018-08-20 17:08:28 UTC

There are other things like Mercurial which is easier to learn, but is less supported by online repositories.

2018-08-20 17:09:16 UTC

Hmmm we could choose a name which includes the word "Shop" or "Store" and modify it a bit but without making it too similar to "Shopify"

2018-08-20 17:09:49 UTC

And I see you know a lot about the subject, since you're a data scientist and all that I guess you previously worked in big projects ? With teams, using github ?

2018-08-20 17:10:25 UTC

Or maybe like Amazon take something that is not obviously something about shop so that people will look into it to see what it is.

2018-08-20 17:11:15 UTC

Ah I see, very smart, using their curiosity to attract them

2018-08-20 17:11:47 UTC


2018-08-20 17:11:54 UTC

Maybe the name of an animal or something

2018-08-20 17:12:08 UTC


2018-08-20 17:12:19 UTC

A Fully made-up random word which would make no sense

2018-08-20 17:12:37 UTC

I have worked on small projects in teams. Never used github in a team (I have used mercurial in a team) . I have used github professionally alone though. And contributed to machine learning open source projects.

2018-08-20 17:14:13 UTC

Nice, if I recall I saw interesting projects on youtube which used things like "Neural networks" or something and then it would simulate and simulate until they get something interesting, i'm curious about AI maybe one day I'll research more into it

2018-08-20 17:14:17 UTC

Maybe we can name it after Devon. Maybe "Arthurs". A scandal in the making.

2018-08-20 17:14:32 UTC

Hahahahah not sure if that's a good idea

2018-08-20 17:14:36 UTC

Why not tho

2018-08-20 17:14:43 UTC

If we keep the fact that's its named after him secret

2018-08-20 17:18:29 UTC

I'm up for it. But would be hard to Google though. Maybe Devonar... Or just Devon and become THE Devon. Did Devon have a nick here?

2018-08-20 17:20:45 UTC

I think his username was Wolfdevon

2018-08-20 17:25:43 UTC

Hmm... Maybe just Devons? You know any language except English? Wolf is ulv in norwegian lupus in Latin... Lupdevon? Nah...

2018-08-20 17:26:46 UTC

Loup in french

2018-08-20 17:31:44 UTC

On discord he was PatricianSalafist99

2018-08-20 17:32:28 UTC

Patridevon... Might be on to something.

2018-08-20 17:36:57 UTC

Patrician... Hmm

2018-08-20 17:38:21 UTC

Noble.... Nobledevon....no...

2018-08-20 17:39:59 UTC

High Devon... High Arthurs... Topdevon... What about Topdevon?

2018-08-20 17:42:52 UTC

Nodebledevon and High Devon/Arthurs seem weird I admit, topdevon however sounds bretty gud

2018-08-20 17:49:03 UTC

I like topdevon. At least as a project name. It sounds like a quality product

2018-08-20 17:49:18 UTC


2018-08-20 17:49:20 UTC

top-tier name

2018-08-22 02:24:04 UTC

>this many people here

2018-08-22 02:24:27 UTC

Imagine my shock

2018-08-22 02:24:59 UTC

devon is a popular guy

2018-08-22 02:25:02 UTC

It's pretty dead most of the time, and 90% memes that have nothing to do with Devon lol

2018-08-22 02:25:04 UTC

What the hell how are all these random people I know from other servers who definitely never knew Devon here before me

2018-08-22 02:25:21 UTC

to be fair most people here aren't og devon bros

2018-08-22 02:25:32 UTC

If there's a role for that hook me up

2018-08-22 02:25:58 UTC

Idk who the mod is here but yeah y'all need the OG roles

2018-08-22 02:26:47 UTC

>the mod isn't even an og devon bro

2018-08-22 02:27:06 UTC

@mod give me ownership

2018-08-23 13:16:18 UTC


2018-08-23 13:22:43 UTC


2018-08-25 18:37:11 UTC

This sh*t is funny and the comments are funnier. @Jacob πŸ•‹ Alex Jones doing that doesn’t rlly surprise me either.

2018-08-25 18:37:35 UTC

Same, he's a weird guy

2018-08-25 18:39:38 UTC

Backbiting is a bad habit even if it is to a kaffir

2018-08-25 19:12:50 UTC

You're right kaizer. But wow. Appearently he is married. Yet that didn't stop him from masturbating to tranny shit

2018-08-25 19:18:19 UTC

Kuffar is degenerate. No rules

2018-08-25 23:41:45 UTC

alex jones has no right even to life, much less reputation.

2018-08-25 23:57:23 UTC

oh yeah should say in a strictly metaphysical sense not in a legal sense, obey the law guys.

2018-08-25 23:58:33 UTC

who here still plays minecraft?

2018-08-26 00:00:12 UTC

I do from time to time

2018-08-26 03:17:34 UTC

Bashar Al Assad is more of a degenerate and kaffir than McCain was.

2018-08-26 16:04:21 UTC

His wife is diagnosed with cancer. The time will come when he will pay a high price.

2018-08-26 16:04:26 UTC


2018-08-29 00:58:34 UTC

Salam aleykoum wa rahmatoullah wa barakatouh

2018-08-29 00:58:44 UTC
2018-08-29 11:14:25 UTC

Wa alaikum as-salam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

2018-08-29 15:07:04 UTC

assad isnt that bad compared to other arap leaders lol

2018-08-29 15:07:16 UTC

i mean

2018-08-29 15:07:31 UTC

he did kill 600 gorrilion sunnis and eats hospitals for breakfast

2018-08-29 15:07:55 UTC


2018-08-29 15:08:02 UTC

What did u say?

2018-08-29 15:08:14 UTC

Rip my nigga

2018-08-29 15:08:24 UTC

Prolly a shia innit @patty

2018-08-29 15:08:42 UTC

perhaps πŸ’©

2018-08-29 15:08:44 UTC

Assad is worse than any Arab leader in history. Nobody has mismanaged their own country in the middle east like that before.

2018-08-29 15:08:52 UTC


2018-08-29 15:09:23 UTC

hahahaha what

2018-08-29 15:09:32 UTC


2018-08-29 15:09:34 UTC

nigga tf

2018-08-29 15:09:56 UTC

what about the saudis and literally all other arab governments

2018-08-29 15:10:12 UTC

Assad kills too many terrorists

2018-08-29 15:10:16 UTC

he should tone it down

2018-08-29 15:10:33 UTC

Saudis are far better than Assad lol

2018-08-29 15:10:38 UTC


2018-08-29 15:10:56 UTC

my poop is better then the saudis

2018-08-29 15:11:02 UTC

In human history nobody has managed to get so large percentage of their own people to flee and murder such a large percentage of their own people. He murdered a larger percentage of his own people than the safawids did.

2018-08-29 15:11:12 UTC

bruh what

2018-08-29 15:11:33 UTC

he didnt "cause" his people too flee

2018-08-29 15:11:40 UTC

Hopefully mbs gets his shit straight but generally saudis are far better

2018-08-29 15:11:42 UTC

No Saudi King have made such a large percentage of his population flee.

2018-08-29 15:11:43 UTC

foreign intervention and terror groups did

2018-08-29 15:11:54 UTC

not only that

2018-08-29 15:12:13 UTC

99% of refugees are just trying to get a better life in europe

2018-08-29 15:12:21 UTC

Interesting how Shias only fight Muslims and call them terrorists but almost never fight the kuffar πŸ€”

2018-08-29 15:12:32 UTC

lol what

2018-08-29 15:12:35 UTC

No foreign invasion. No foreign army shot at the demonstrators and killed their families.

2018-08-29 15:13:04 UTC

@kaizervonmaanen go to saudi arabia and demonstrate against yemen invasion

2018-08-29 15:13:12 UTC

Yeah and the bombing campains

2018-08-29 15:13:14 UTC

God damn

2018-08-29 15:13:25 UTC

The only reason these so called 'terrorist' groups exist is because of the violence Assad used against his people

2018-08-29 15:13:41 UTC

It was mainly peaceful protesting before the government became violent

2018-08-29 15:13:49 UTC

And now the upcoming offence to capture idlib

2018-08-29 15:13:58 UTC

Will be so bloody

2018-08-29 15:14:04 UTC

Then it became civil war and Assad deemed all rebel groups as 'terrorists'

2018-08-29 15:22:51 UTC

@patty#4710 I would, but they would arrest me. Saudi government is degenerate and they love murdering innocent Yemeni Muslims. But they still don't shoot demonstrators in the street or their families at home. They arrest them and they don't punish the families of those arrested.

2018-08-29 18:01:05 UTC

>le foreign intervention
>le jooos

2018-08-29 18:01:15 UTC

Lmao assman is a garbage leader, even Putin knows this

2018-08-29 18:02:51 UTC


2018-08-29 18:02:57 UTC


>Interesting how Shias only fight Muslims and call them terrorists but almost never fight the kuffar thinking

>what is 1982, 2000 and 2006 hezbollah wars with israel
>what is the iranian hostage crisis
>what is iranians arresting us navy sailors when they sail into iranian waters
>what is mahdi army's insurgency against the americans in iraq
>what is sheikh zakzaky's islamic movement in nigeria
>who are the houthis

are you fucking stupid lmao, shias are the only ones standing up do the west

2018-08-29 22:38:17 UTC

β€œ ASSad isn’t that bad compared to other Arab leaders lol β€œ



2018-08-29 22:38:33 UTC

Nice argument

2018-08-29 22:39:26 UTC

What about Shia genocidal militias who kill Sunnis to replace them in Iraq & Syria

2018-08-29 22:39:31 UTC

>Shias are the only one standing up to the west
What is IS, AQ, and almost every other Sunni jihadi group
Lots of those groups have support from Russia or other Western countries. Shia rafidi dogs also genocide Sunnis.
Shias aren't even Muslim lol

2018-08-29 22:39:36 UTC

Rafidi dogs get out

2018-08-29 22:39:51 UTC

There are vids though, but imo he's still the lesser of two evils for resisting western imperialism
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2018-08-29 22:40:05 UTC

Rebel groups, being aided

2018-08-29 22:40:23 UTC

But Russian imperialism is okay?

2018-08-29 22:40:24 UTC

Sunni preacher who is going to get executed in Iran


2018-08-29 22:40:52 UTC

"Jamshed Dehghani, a Sunni preacher in Iran, saying goodbye to fellow prisoners before his execution. He was executed along with five other Sunni men in Rajai Shahr prison, 4 March 2015."

2018-08-29 22:41:10 UTC

Russia is no better, actually worse than the US. Al Saud is a kaffir dog who will burn in hell inshallah. May Allah curse him and those who support his regime.

2018-08-29 22:41:20 UTC

And no I don't defend Daesh

2018-08-29 22:42:03 UTC

@carlos Why was he executed? And source. You can't claim Iran is executing innocent sunni preachers just for being sunni.

2018-08-29 22:42:11 UTC

I don’t even think the rebel groups are being aided by the US anymore. They’re left fighting Bathar al athad alone.


2018-08-29 22:43:53 UTC
2018-08-29 22:44:26 UTC

I used to be pro-Iran because I saw it as pro-Islam anti-Western with Sharia but now I'm not after learning about the militias killing Sunnis

2018-08-29 22:45:09 UTC

Also the fact that the Iranian regime isn't Muslim πŸ€”

2018-08-29 22:45:29 UTC

Shia are kuffar innit

2018-08-29 22:45:40 UTC

**They were accused, together with six other Sunni men, of involvement in the assassination of a senior Sunni cleric with ties to the government who was killed on September 17, 2009.**

2018-08-29 22:46:11 UTC

Basically Iran was trynna protect a sunni cleric from these guys

2018-08-29 22:46:29 UTC

Hol op

2018-08-29 22:46:38 UTC

Why was Sayyed banned?

2018-08-29 22:46:54 UTC

For supporting rafidi dogs

2018-08-29 22:47:14 UTC

Sure. But you could redpill him, no?

2018-08-29 22:47:34 UTC

@John 313 Are you Sunni or Shia ?

2018-08-29 22:47:56 UTC

I can't support Iran and say they are muslims anyways

2018-08-29 22:47:57 UTC

I'm Shi'a, but don't ban. I won't cause troubles

2018-08-29 22:48:14 UTC

Because they accept transgenders, they have temporary marriage for fornication, and many other weird things wich aren't from Islam

2018-08-29 22:48:15 UTC


2018-08-29 22:48:21 UTC

I can't ban you anyways heh

2018-08-29 22:48:37 UTC

Khomeini did allow transgenders yeah

2018-08-29 22:48:48 UTC

Convert to the saved sect bro

2018-08-29 22:48:49 UTC

But most marjas don't afaik

2018-08-29 22:49:16 UTC

Seriously why are you Shia

2018-08-29 22:49:25 UTC

Do you really believe there are 12 occulted Imams who have god-like powers

2018-08-29 22:49:44 UTC

Also to say that mutah is legalized prostitution is kinda like saying that marriage is legalized fornication, or polygamy is legalized adultery eh

2018-08-29 22:50:02 UTC

Wdym by occulted Imams?

2018-08-29 22:50:04 UTC

No it's not the same thing mutah is a temporary marriage only for sex, no ?

2018-08-29 22:50:17 UTC

It can be for dating too

2018-08-29 22:50:18 UTC

I don't know it's a thing I saw somewhere occultation or something

2018-08-29 22:50:48 UTC

The 12th Imam is in occultation yeah

2018-08-29 22:50:49 UTC

You're a persian right ? Iranian ?

2018-08-29 22:50:55 UTC

I'm Albanian

2018-08-29 22:51:01 UTC

Sayyed is Iranian

2018-08-29 22:51:02 UTC

Ah Shia Albanian weird

2018-08-29 22:51:07 UTC

True lol

2018-08-29 22:51:27 UTC

Albanians are usually catholic/muslims and a lot of atheists I'm sure because of past history n communism I think

2018-08-29 22:51:36 UTC

@Jacob πŸ•‹ Sayyed is asking for unban, is that ok with u?

2018-08-29 22:51:47 UTC

@carlos Yeah that's right

2018-08-29 22:51:52 UTC


2018-08-29 22:52:00 UTC

But also prior to Communism

2018-08-29 22:52:13 UTC

As long as he keeps politics out of it

2018-08-29 22:52:15 UTC

There were Austro Hungarian agents

2018-08-29 22:52:22 UTC

I see

2018-08-29 22:52:44 UTC


2018-08-29 22:52:45 UTC

King Zogu was probably a french agent

2018-08-29 22:52:48 UTC


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2018-08-29 22:52:54 UTC

He banned shariah

2018-08-29 22:52:56 UTC


2018-08-29 22:53:18 UTC

@John 313 Like the French in Algeria, all kufars do that it's normal

2018-08-29 22:53:32 UTC

Since you're Shia what do you say about this hadith:

It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: β€œThose who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”

90% of muslims are Sunni 10% Shias

2018-08-29 22:53:42 UTC

@Jacob πŸ•‹ You wanna debate tawassul huh?

2018-08-29 22:53:57 UTC


2018-08-29 22:54:17 UTC

@carlos firstly it was narrated by Muawiyah who we deem as munafiq

2018-08-29 22:54:52 UTC

And the Jama'ah is very tangible

2018-08-29 22:55:05 UTC

Some Akhbaris said that sunnis were kufar

2018-08-29 22:55:22 UTC

So to them the jama'ah would be shias

2018-08-29 22:55:41 UTC

But the majority position is that sunnis are Muslim

2018-08-29 22:56:13 UTC

Ok ok I see

2018-08-29 22:56:17 UTC

It's grave worship and if you disagree you are wrong
"I asked "The Saudi Ulama say that touching the graves and calling the saints for their blessings is polytheism, so what is your opinion?"
Al-Sayyid al-Sadr replied:
If touching the graves and calling the dead is with the understanding that they could cause harm or render a benefit, then that is polytheism, no doubt about it, the Muslims are monotheists and they know that Allah alone could cause harm or render a benefit, but calling the saints and Imams (may Allah bless them all) with the understanding that they could be an intermediary to Allah, that is not polytheism."

Yes it is polytheism and this is IJMA as narrated by ibn Hajar that whoever takes an intermediary to Allah is an apostate.
Also I would like to point out the first part of his answer 'it's not polytheism as long as you believe allah is the one behind it', this is always the excuse for every saint worshipping religion. Mary's not all hearing, God just allows her to hear you. However many Shia believe that God already gave power over the entire universe to the Imams, so I mean their argument is literally 'it's not shirk unless you believe they got God's power themselves', and that's just stupid.

2018-08-29 22:56:18 UTC

Were you born Sunni or Shia ?

2018-08-29 22:56:31 UTC


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