Message from @carlos
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But also prior to Communism
As long as he keeps politics out of it
There were Austro Hungarian agents
I see
King Zogu was probably a french agent
He banned shariah
Since you're Shia what do you say about this hadith:
It was narrated from Muโaawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: โThose who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaaโah (main body of Muslims).โ
90% of muslims are Sunni 10% Shias
@Jacob ๐ You wanna debate tawassul huh?
And the Jama'ah is very tangible
Some Akhbaris said that sunnis were kufar
So to them the jama'ah would be shias
But the majority position is that sunnis are Muslim
It's grave worship and if you disagree you are wrong
"I asked "The Saudi Ulama say that touching the graves and calling the saints for their blessings is polytheism, so what is your opinion?"
Al-Sayyid al-Sadr replied:
If touching the graves and calling the dead is with the understanding that they could cause harm or render a benefit, then that is polytheism, no doubt about it, the Muslims are monotheists and they know that Allah alone could cause harm or render a benefit, but calling the saints and Imams (may Allah bless them all) with the understanding that they could be an intermediary to Allah, that is not polytheism."
https://www.al-islam.org/sw/node/12750
Yes it is polytheism and this is IJMA as narrated by ibn Hajar that whoever takes an intermediary to Allah is an apostate.
Also I would like to point out the first part of his answer 'it's not polytheism as long as you believe allah is the one behind it', this is always the excuse for every saint worshipping religion. Mary's not all hearing, God just allows her to hear you. However many Shia believe that God already gave power over the entire universe to the Imams, so I mean their argument is literally 'it's not shirk unless you believe they got God's power themselves', and that's just stupid.
Were you born Sunni or Shia ?
Sunni
Hanafi Athari
Can't believe a Sunni can become Shia what went trough your head, what made you think Shiism is truth ?
Yeah. Mostly Shiites who become Sunnis not the other way around.
Basically the fact that Imamate is correct, but I'm to exhausted to debate here now. @Deleted User is debating a Christian so I'm helping him in dms.
@Caliphization Really? We got 3 people who went from sunni to shia in Rafed server.
Like, said the shahada in vc
Thatโs sad. Most people convert from Shiism to Sunnism
>sending videos to prove a point
Smh
And what do you think about the Shiite fatimid Caliphate who tyrannized the Ummah and cut people in half because they refused to worshop Ali
worship*
Fatimids were Ismaili
Ismailis are kufar
And backstabbed Saladin in the crusades war.
Because they reject shariah
But Ismailism is Shiism