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We might end up being almost too early even leaving late evening.
Tomorrow*, but at least it'll factor in stops, sleep, and road bull crap we may encounter.
If I factor everything I stated in, we could be there anytime between 1-4pm Friday.
Despite it being 15-17 hours away
Okay, the arrival time is 12 noon to 12 midnight. That's smack-dab in the middle of arrival time demands.
Oh perfect then.
Early is good.
That's a lot of time for a lot of people to be gathered in a campground
Are we going to be left to ourselves this time?
The lodging is handled.
You just get everyone there. Maybe lean on Matthew a little harder.
I'll see about pushing on him.
Can you or Vincent TX fill me in on the Mark SD situation. Why is he stranded without any help?
He ghosted the people who were relying on him for a ride at first and took hours to respond, stated conflicting reports and delayed the convoy. He stayed with the NW4 guys last night, they had to leave in the morning, and he refused to get up and go with them to retrieve his items from camp. He brought two fully loaded pistols to the event with additional ammunition, including rifle ammunition. He left all of this unattended at camp. His bag is going to find its way back to him one way or another, and then he's on his own.
What the fuck
He's dangerous, stupid, and potentially malicious. His truck is fixed and he's not our responsibility anymore.
Absolutely asinine. I knew he lived out of his truck atm but none of that.
Did you inform non members about the VE situation?
I believe I saw you posting messages during departure. Is this correct?
Chef had started a drive in the PPLG chat at the behest of William OK and they all said they did it infront of you, which I didn't know at the time. I didn't post images of what happened or details other than what they already knew which was the bus getting messed up because someone had posted pictures of the bus.
Will review later. No one is in trouble, but not waiting until things were more settled for that was a bit messy.
What's this about not using rocket chat? Matthews got me a little paranoid.
A little late now since I've been on here all night.
Remain calm and follow standard security practices.
Should we not be using RC though?
Proceed as normal.
I have some concerns that you're too embedded in all of these other groups. I believe it could be nearing the point of a guide violation. Can I have a full and detailed list of your attachments to outside organizations? Anything and everything.
I have no other formal attachments to anything besides Patriot Front.
How did you end up wearing the NJP shirt and doing their thing at that event?
How many people are in the PP? What responsibilities are involved there?
Are you the only one who organizes those things?
I split it between me, John, and Ray. I'm the final say.
So the three leaders of this 30+ pool party are all members in a local PF NW of 8 members?
Yes. We don't do anything that interferes with activism. if that wasn't clear.
Why are all the organizers members? Do the other 30 people not have anyone capable among them?
No. The original guy who started it, my friend, has a full time job and three kids. We almost never see him now. He passed it off to me probably 2 years ago now and out of everyone, we're the only ones anyone trusts to direct the group efficiently.
What percentage of these people are men aged 18-40?
90%. 3 are former members.
So we have three of our members in an arguably struggling NW, including the Director who has a very demanding job, all being the only ones who can plan hikes or dinners with a pool party full of people with the qualifications to join, or direct experience, and obviously knowledge sufficient to do so, but simply being disinterested?
Try to see this from my perspective.
Did any of these guys even go to the Wisconsin NJP picket protest thing?
No. Nobody could on short notice go to that event. They didn't give any of us definitive until 2 days before.
Well they're not the most organized either, so that's off by the side.
My concern is that this is a big time sink negatively affecting NW11, and it's an "easy out" for people who should do everything we do, which includes hikes, social time, etc.
I spent the first night in Virginia talking with Mike about getting him back into being a more active member. We're going to have a workshop day next week for banners followed with the stencil that most of us now possess thanks to the event. We have a clear line of what we want to get done for the Network and what parts of the state need it most.
John has been a good boon these last few weeks/month since he joined keeping up regular activism along with peter. Its going to get harder to put up stickers soon so we'll need the aforementioned options ready and available for the coming weeks and months.
Its not as big a time sink as it sounds. The frequency of hikes and such is months away from each other. This month and leading into January are just bad for me. After that its not a problem, but I'm making do with next week.
Alright, well to dissuade the concerns of myself and others you should make additional efforts to apply yourself and the talents of NW11 more singularly towards the organization.
You should begin a process of trying to convert the passive manpower of the PP into active manpower. Some benefit needs to be garnered or it's just catering to people who do not respect our labors. If they can't place banners, then they should come help make them. If they can't do marches, have them do hikes with us. If they can't place promat, they should give you a few bucks to buy some. If they can't do any of that, then they don't really deserve your attention as a Director.
You should converse with other, very active Directors and find counsel with them. I would suggest Samuel, Carter, Christopher, and James. Get back to me with any notes on your discoveries in these brainstorming sessions.
I understand. I'll take your suggestions and apply them for what gain I can garner. It's been a while since i've talked to Samuel. I'll see when he has time to talk.
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For later: Can't access the vetting server to respond to my interviewee. I really dont want to lose a 5th one.
You left a bunch of people blue mic'd
They can reconnect.
I can 100% guarantee everyone from MN on that list need not be there.
I need a list of names.
(I'm on my phone so I can't do the spacing)
I'll still look closer into peter, but I honestly don't think he's a bad egg at all. The kids been at my house multiple times since he's been in. He basically knows what I do for work, he knows my name cuz he's seen my dox. If he really is some deep cover mole he's sitting on a confirmation gold mine on my dox they could've published ages ago.
Yet there's nothing.
I know where he lives, where he goes to school, his hobbies, etc.
I got word that you can't meet an Intermediate for several weeks because of "family stuff"? When you accepted the recognition you agreed to follow the responsibilities. See below.
You need to get better organized or make some formal delegations. Either way, be more decisive, animated, and exemplary in your conduct. It inspires confidence which is diminished by telling Intermediates to wait a few weeks.
I'm indisposed until tomorrow is what I told him. I didn't say several weeks. I said later this week.
Clarify and reach out. Set a precise date and time.
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, or Saturday.
Make sure to study the new vetting procedures in the meantime.
I'll have it all sorted with him soon.
Today is pretty soon. Which day will it be this week?
John looks like he's doing more organizing in the NW channel than you are. You should try to lean into that to help him.
I told him to do so.
John just informed me of two NW11 members who are supposedly inactive. I don't know why you haven't brought this to my attention, if it is true, since the following is listed in the Director document:
Have you delegated all of the responsibilities of your role to John?
The fact that people are going around you, and giving me directly complains and amendments to 11's internal functions is proof enough that something is gravely wrong.
No. I just asked him to help for this week with set up while I wasn't in town. I told you a week ago that Mike was a problem, and that he'd gotten lazy and was choosing his woman over activism. I told him at DC that if he doesn't show any drive when we're back, or skips out on any activism that he's gone.
It's after DC. Inform me of your decision.
Hes confirmed he is going to the banner creation workshop on Friday. If he flakes, hes gone.
Make that publicly known in the channel for all to see.
Visible decision making, and enforced accountability are critical in inspiring confidence in leadership.
Can you verify me on mumble please. I have a meeting
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