(DM) Thomas & ND - John WA
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But idk Vincent’s rocket chat birthday
I was driving. Swapped out.
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August 2, 2021 4:56 AM
Who is "we" when you say "we have a lead", and who is the lead on, and what is the nature and veracity of the lead? I need the full context so I don't have to play word games with you.
Hop on mumble
Low service. Type it out.
We is me Matthew Vincent and Benjamin, the screenshots older than Vincent
You already discussed it on the tech team channel
I had the day off so I’ve been narrowing down all these people on the west coast
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Who was the cameraman for the Midwest hike?
There were very few usable photos. Maybe Jesse CO. Vincent, however, was in the photography chat and could have nabbed a few pictures from there. Not the whole folder which was given only to me as far as I recall.
We’re people unmasked in those photos?
Any photos Vincent may have had access to we need to look at
I don't have any of the raws with unmasked people. At most you may have had a cheek or the back of a neck. Nothing substantial. I downloaded, edited, scrubbed, and then deleted the raws. Standard procedure.
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I got a lead
"Carl CA always keeps a mask on always. Shy quiet and weird." -Gary CA
He also doesn't attend events.
If he's inactive anyways then we can remove him on that.
Robert WA former infil ALWAYS kept a mask on and seemed like a “very schizophrenic shy weird quiet guy”
Give me a report on Carl's activity, and find instances of strange acts or potential connections to the leaks.
you got it
I would like to rejoin the interview team.
I need to brush up on my interview skills. Really dropped the ball on that guy.
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Narrowed it down to Christopher and Carl CA
Don’t know them, strange behavior on Carl’s part
always wear masks even when not doing activism
How do you know about the behavior? From someone else, then. So that person knows them. So talk to them. Investigating means you have to talk to people who know things.
That’s what I did all day yesterday Tom
Made a list and crossed off everyone who wasn’t sus
Carl was last
Avis rang my card for $1975.54
I currently have $200 to my name.
Okay, so you do know about strange behavior on Carl's part.
But you don't know him personally.
So this testimony is coming from someone who does know.
Who is this person? What is this behavior?
You understand I need more to go on than you crossing items off a list.
What part of this expense was already planned for regarding the charge?
@Leo OR has been doxxed
Fourth person to tell me.
I saw it in the social media channel and the Telegram as well.
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I think his intention was to state a fight as a shield guy and make us look like we started violence by him throwing punches.
That being said, shield guys need to be pretty vetted.
They were local recommendations. So you would have been in charge of that vetting as well.
This is a scripted message. Please make sure to review the recent announcement. Thank you.
What about myappointments?
Can we have a discussion one on one?
Subject?
Recent events
Specify.
I have not talked to you since the event. A lot has happened, I have had a lot on my plate, working nonstop ti find our rat, and i was wanting your thoughts.
I'm privy to the discussions.
Once Vincent is home, likely tomorrow, we will renew and finalize the investigation with current leads.
I just had the worst infilitrator the org has ever seen
For today, the tech team is still going through the process of updates.
I am aware that you did. Your personal conduct and degree of culpability, if any, will be reviewed once other matters are out of the way.
Am
Am I being demoted?
Your personal conduct and degree of culpability, if any, will be reviewed once other matters are out of the way.
Understood, sorry.
So, the review has not taken place, and neither has any judgement been passed.
Of course, everyone shares a degree of responibility.
I just want to improve. Never let what happened happen again. ever.
Vetting practices are already being updated across the board.
Server security is being updated as well.
I vetted him rather poorly
Event planning, I will ensure, has no such future vulnerabilities.
I was going to say pat downs mandatory, and electronic devices taken at security checkpoint, never give phones back until after the event.
There was a choice made to differ from before. IDay had a massive crate of everyone's phones unaccounted for at the return and delayed. Massive risk. Calamitous if captured or lost. I made a call to change it and have phones in vehicles, one on and the others off.
Perhaps it wasn't the right call. Perhaps if we had done it as before, it would have been even worse. It is hard to say. New methods will be altogether amended.
Your focus right now needs to be the NW. Keeping the men safe and happy.
I have been doing everything I can.
Everyone has remained calm, and helpful.
Plans laid out for dox-ees?
BTW almost none of them took the infosec guides serious. We have gone over it quite a bit, I've told them tons of times to ditch social media, and get www.joindeleteme.com, and most didn't do that. As a result they are at risk of being doxxed. However since 2 were doxxed they all have finally done it.
tyler has relocated away from seattle, Leo so far is fine, They never got his address. Both members cleaned up their infosec.
Lessons learned the hard way are still learned. Sounds like guys are dealing with it fine.
A much more professional, no-nonsense atmosphere is a good idea.
I totally agree.
It's been a work of progress. We had a great talk about pretending like a microphone is on you at all times, especially on the server.
Christopher AZ was interested in coming back to help us, but only to help with cyber security. Doesn't want to risk his job, but he did just do cyber security, landed a great job doing it. I know we don't have a ton of tech team guys. Just an idea.
It's all or nothing. If he wants to help us then he needs to put up. If he can't do that, then he needs to just be fine with his complicit status.
Does "jake" do activism?
Jake's been around since day one, and has certain keys and skills for our servers and websites that others can't manage.
He's been dependable in that role since he started years ago. I don't even remember who Christopher is.
ND Christopher AZ
formerly
lol
He's not in any situation to bargain.
Understood.
85% of my stuff from the camp is missing.
It’s not on the list
And there was an SD card in there I was going to give back to Vincent. Has some personal stuff of his on there too.
I got the card.
Don't know what 85% of your stuff is.
They left
Green and grey tent
Truck key
Grey Blanket
Grey pillow
Clothes
Black duffel bag
SD card
Pillow like this
the pillow and blanket were from Mom UT
Talk to @Christopher VA about it.
Also my fav flannel
Everything that was left was loaded up.
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