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Thomas @thomas

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Patrick TX @PF-8944

Send me itinerary for Saturday, please

Patrick TX @PF-8944

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Patrick TX @PF-8944

We still got this in as btw..sat night?

Patrick TX @PF-8944

In Dallas

Thomas @thomas

We still got this in as btw?

Patrick TX @PF-8944

In Dallas

Thomas @thomas
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Thomas @thomas

Give me a report on how Andrew WY is doing in regards to the Lifestyle Recovery project. And note anyone else who has been notable in losing many pounds.

Thomas @thomas

Prepare a few words for the Awards Ceremony about the Lifestyle Recovery Program's most successful participants. Talk about the purpose of the program, it's success, and call out the best of its current improvement stories. Keep it to about a page. Sound good?

Patrick TX @PF-8944

You got it buddy.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

😍

Patrick TX @PF-8944

need park and ride address please, if you happen to have it

Thomas @thomas

Would need my computer. DART park and ride in or around Plano. Oscar or Paul should recognize it. Can't be that many.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Got it, disseminated to all- all good here buddy

Patrick TX @PF-8944

ready to rock

Patrick TX @PF-8944

shields done early tomm

Patrick TX @PF-8944

safe travels

Thomas @thomas

Make sure that Unaffiliate NJP Kevin guy has contact for travel if he wants to go to the march.

Thomas @thomas

Get your PP friends to go.

Thomas @thomas

It is everyone's job to hold everyone accountable as far as activity, membership, conduct, etc.

I would expect anyone to speak their honest mind to anyone about witnessing of violations. You have strong opinions and have at many times been a strong leader for individuals. I know you are capable of delivering thoughts you may perceive to be harsh to others. I am formally requesting you speak your mind more deliberately in these matters to those you have these thoughts of. Be a part of the process.

Giving up on people and disregarding misconduct or refusal to pressure change in that regard is not a decision that the general membership can make. It is up to the discretion of those who decide suspension, and that is only after all efforts can be judged and applied in any circumstance.

It is everyone's job to press and place effort within everyone who is a current member at all times.

I understand you do not always prefer the tougher route if it may not yield desired results, but when it comes to men, we must exercise optimism to the last moment or we risk endangering the very underpinnings of our reason to organize at all. The belief that people, men, society, and the world can change for the better if given the right efforts and circumstances.

Thomas @thomas

Vincent has the packing list covered as far as I can see, not including Individual Packing, which has been linked in the NW channel and discussed during the meeting. I would confer with him for any items missing from the list he delivered to me.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Talk to Austin about Wilson, he's a chronic liar and bullshitter and is constantly BSing us about positive change while continuing to be a weird fat gamer loser, keep him around if you want man but I wash my hands, If you want to tolerate people like Harrison who steal thousands from and backstab their brothers that's fine, or fat man children like Matt or Wilson, that's your perogative, but I will not tolerate it, and it's a disgrace to our organization and all the men in it that diminishes and sullies the honor and status of being a part of this

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Anyways not important rn talk about it after event, or not, whatever all that matters is this weekend

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Sure maybe one last harsh exhortation and ultimatum for Wilson

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Am not impuning your intentions or character by giving guys like these chance after chance on a personal fashion, just speaking plainly that it deeply offends my sense of honor personally and the honor of our collective, always has

Thomas @thomas

What we do is thankless work. It is hard and it is our job to place more faith in people than they do in themselves at times. It is necessary for us to fulfill our ideals.

I believe in a consistent and universal standard. Ryan PA had qualms with Vincent and threatened to refuse to work with him, communicate him "wash his hands" of him. I cited that would be trying to get something done, changed, etc. in the organization by means of threatening how the functions of the organization work. I cited it to him as a violation. The principle is the same. We all work for people until the last moment. If that means you tell him what you actually think, then it means that.

It is unbecoming of your tenure, experience, skillset, and motivations to be so quick to deny people the right to hear what you have to say, once you have already granted them your aid in the first place. That much is deserved, and you would be just to give. What we do is give, give, give.

I was as harsh with Matt as words could muster. I barred Harrison from everything and told him to renegotiate the ongoing cases. If it ends up being the case, I'll do the same with Wilson and encourage Austin to leave him to his own squalor should he refuse growth. I am responsible for these decisions and know we are people's last hope. If that means more chances, I accept it. If it means telling people the hard truth until the moment they themselves give up, then so be it. Tell people what you think, me too, but them especially. You're in a position to give.

Subject over.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Dont compare me making accurate assessments of Wilson or Matt as the petty shit Ryan pulls, or as 'making threats' you know well that's not what I meant and would think you know me better than that

Thomas @thomas

Accuracy is not the point. It's giving up too soon. Even if they all end up dead in ditches, and even if they deserved it, it's on us to try up until the last moment. Right now, he's still here and you said it yourself that maybe there's hope if more effort is applied. So it's not over and it's not time to withhold the dialogue that could make the difference.

I know you well enough to know your words are valuable and you have the power to exercise rightful influence on others.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Ok buddy fair enough, you got a way of bringing out the best in people 🥰

Patrick TX @PF-8944

See you in the field Generalissimo

Thomas @thomas

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Thomas @thomas

Send me an Amazon link to the cardstock you ordered.

Thomas @thomas
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Patrick TX @PF-8944

That just for nw1 or what

Thomas @thomas

For everyone, we pick a gift from the list.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

I got mine covered

Thomas @thomas

It's one per NW

Thomas @thomas

So we pick one as a NW and tell Eric and send him the money.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

I got gifts of my own accord

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Xmas is next week trigger needs to be pulled immediately, yesterday, no time to wait to collect $ from everyone without looking at links I imagine. Nothing is a big ticket item either

Patrick TX @PF-8944

I imagine nothing is a pricy big ticket item **

Thomas @thomas

I'll get you cash tomorrow to send to Eric.

Thomas @thomas

He can do the rest.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Good idea not sure how u wanna handle it just saying I did my thing already

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Ite I'll get a cashapp from him

Thomas @thomas

If you want to talk to Eric about making sure there are more things or more money, then that is between you and him.

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Lmk what's up with vehicle fundraising $

Patrick TX @PF-8944

Where I'm sending it

Thomas @thomas

Samuel is handling that.

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