And the social media companies will let nothing slow their grab for power.

Right and I think that's only going to get worse as influence is exerted

Reddit has been nothing if not pliable over the years

I agree.

Reddit's not pliable. Reddit's *complicit*

On an admin level sure

I suspect no small fraction of this is coming straight from Reddit itself.

I'm referring to the userbase, only a portion of which is complicit

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BEEMAN

beeman

*beeman**

I suspect the majority of the userbase is outright brainwashed.

It's all gotta go though basically

The consolidation level is too high

They embody the hivemind in all walks of their life.

No, it doesn't. Power being centralized does not imply a devolution of power.

If anything, it only becomes increasingly hardened with time.

Power being centralized makes it ripe for absolute fuckery

Which is what is happening.

Right, so what I'm saying is the way to handle it is to kick out the support beams, or let someone else do it for you

It was a mistake to give a single organization so much power, much less do the same trick 5 or so times over

What *exactly* are you proposing to do.

And "make alternatives" isn't an answer.

We've seen how that went and is going.

They just go after funding. And they get infested with alt-right racists and you'll never get the mainstream onboard.

We've had that conversation already, and how your general assumption is that all of these alternatives must fail, and how all the problems can't possibly ever go away

It's not an assupmtion.

It's how it has played out in practice.

Look at all the people deplatformed on Patreon.

Tbh the goal of building a second twitter is the issue. That was never a good idea in the first place

Mastercard.

Voat is an alt-right shithole.

BitChute is not much better.

The answer shouldn't be to rebuild the shit site but now with a different spin

And you can't get the mainstream onboard and have no plans to fix it.

THEN WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PLAN!?!

The mainstream is not a monolith

I'm arguing with a brick wall.

Just tell me YOU PLAN.

quit spinning around.