Message from @RyeNorth

Discord ID: 489500699885830185


2018-09-12 18:16:55 UTC  

I'm going to quote it again.

2018-09-12 18:16:59 UTC  

```Yeah why would I pay taxes if I'm not making money I can hoard?
I'm not taking money from anyone, so what's your issue?```

2018-09-12 18:17:12 UTC  

None of the green paper is flowing in my direction.

2018-09-12 18:17:18 UTC  

There should be ZERO ISSUE

2018-09-12 18:17:23 UTC  

I am not a vacuum for it.

2018-09-12 18:17:32 UTC  

That's what an illegal immigrant is, that I am not. Savvy?

2018-09-12 18:17:44 UTC  

Or are you still angry for no reason?

2018-09-12 18:17:52 UTC  

"I WANNA BE MAD!! >A<" - Rye

2018-09-12 18:17:59 UTC  

The UBI comes from the government. The government takes money from other people. You want a UBI which may result in a tax increase. Ergo you want to tax me more thus taking money from me that I would otherwise use.

2018-09-12 18:18:14 UTC  

Nigga.

2018-09-12 18:18:17 UTC  

Ignore the tax increase

2018-09-12 18:18:23 UTC  

Automation is a job abbatoir.

2018-09-12 18:18:28 UTC  

It's irrelevant. That argument was sound.

2018-09-12 18:19:03 UTC  

Plus you cant tax the the UBI, so taxes would have to come from post UBI income.

2018-09-12 18:19:31 UTC  

Subtract the people who are already on social security from working and those under 18

2018-09-12 18:20:13 UTC  

And I agree that automation is a labor nightmare.

2018-09-12 18:20:26 UTC  

Agreeing to that puts you on a hook you won't soon be let off.

2018-09-12 18:20:37 UTC  

A hook called the truth which elbows its way into every argument we're having.

2018-09-12 18:20:39 UTC  

But workarounds are not going to fix it.

2018-09-12 18:20:56 UTC  

Automation is HUGE and a permanent fixture of every conversation like this.

2018-09-12 18:21:01 UTC  

I've had this exact debate, with far more civility, with someone else.

2018-09-12 18:21:03 UTC  

There's no putting it behind us.

2018-09-12 18:21:13 UTC  

And my positions haven't changed.

2018-09-12 18:21:28 UTC  

Oh I guess you expect me to care that you had it before.

2018-09-12 18:21:36 UTC  

Well lemme give it a try.

2018-09-12 18:21:36 UTC  

Rude

2018-09-12 18:21:38 UTC  

Rye. I care.

2018-09-12 18:21:42 UTC  

I care a lot.

2018-09-12 18:21:46 UTC  

So much.

2018-09-12 18:22:14 UTC  

Ubi is pointless because automation will crash the dollar to begin with.

2018-09-12 18:22:23 UTC  

So let's kill ourselves now.

2018-09-12 18:22:28 UTC  

That is a larger worry isnt it

2018-09-12 18:22:32 UTC  

No point living in a future with so much suffering.

2018-09-12 18:22:35 UTC  

#youfirst

2018-09-12 18:22:46 UTC  

I don't want to be a survivor of mad max future.

2018-09-12 18:22:52 UTC  

There's nothing to look forward to.

2018-09-12 18:23:00 UTC  

🤔

2018-09-12 18:23:06 UTC  

I don't particular see the concern over automation

2018-09-12 18:23:08 UTC  

Automation will be the 21st century Pandora's box

2018-09-12 18:23:10 UTC  

The crash of the dollar isn't a nuclear explosion.

2018-09-12 18:23:21 UTC  

I'm supposed to feel silly about my own points, because Rye would like to argue we're fucked either way.