Message from @grant
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that is a really good point
so @Timcast if youtube/patreron screws with your subscriptions let everyone know so we can just start sending visa gift cards instead
People joke about having to make an alternative to Visa/Mastercard but maybe someday that's exactly what'll need to happen
waaaaay easier said than done
Yeah
i actually looked into that once, holy shit the redtape is insane
(just on a whim, not like i would be able to make it happen)
I actually think list 2 will be smaller and will be limited to people they can get away with (they'll remove the people they couldn't get away with this time). I suspect it more about getting their agents into positions to curate YouTube. Just like the ADL and SPLC are doing.
@grant you are def on point there. Alex jones was just the soft test too see if the government would do anything because of it
they will just start using the banhammer before too long, i have been saying oct all year
What is the nefarious end point of all this really though?
silencing descenting opinions
remove the wrongspeak
simple as that
Okay, so the far left removes everyone who isn't far left
Which means twitter is the new tumblr
i think tim said it best in a recent video
basically they will move the window until he counts as the far right
Right and once they do that they will have boxed themselves out of the rest of society
i don't think it will be bans I suspect it will be more subtle like shadow banning, demonitizing, and other ways of trying to hide stuff without outright banning. I also suspect they also want some kind of fake news tag to apply to all people who wrong speak
well, i found it interesting how youtube let up on the shadowbans
and they dont seem to have come back so far
i think they will not bother being so coy about it
they will just boot and move on
They haven't really shown themselves capable of subtlety tbh
the shadowban thing was pretty dubious
i think the only reason anyone found out about it was people leaking info
Shadow banning was discovered because they were doing it excessively
If someone posts a video and they normally get 50k views or whatever in a day, but now they only get 1000, they're going to know that something has happened.
Yup
UNLESS Youtube shows them fake stats.
Its not subtle to us. but the normies don't understand this stuff.
They'll just follow the larger trend regardless, but that being said a lot of them do know
If their video is demonetized and they've being shown fake stats how would they know that they're shadowbanned?
normies not just don't understand this stuff, but simply don't hear about it 😉
They wouldnt be getting the right amount of money?
what money? they'll just demonetize
Oh demonetized before
Well that's already an obvious attack on revenue and influence anyway
Demonetization is the default state of affairs for most political youtubers, so change in revenue wouldn't be a way to notice.