Pretty much.

I'm not against making the process easier though. As long as we maintain sovereignity, go for it, reduce the strain on the system by streamlining it.

Well the other problem is

It's meant to control the flow of foreigners

but people want into this 'terrible, not great, fascist, white supremacy' country like no other

I'm ok with reforming the legal immigration system. It's a horrendous mess that takes forever and is exceedingly confusing if you look into it and currently has a lot of holes and problems that let people in for silly reasons.

It could really be streamlined and reworked a good bit.

It shouldn't be an open floodgate either.

But like, birthright citizenship is silly and leads to silly outcomes.

It also makes me sick hearing people who were pro-border wall suddenly become against it because of partisan hackery

No, what makes me sick

If a wall is good then it doesn't become evil because cheeto preisdent

Is all of the 'think of the children' bullshit

Oh yeah, there's a great atlantic article on Risotto's point: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/the-democrats-immigration-mistake/528678/

@Arch-Fiend fuck you for wasting 5 minutes of my life with that faggot video

Obviously the people crossing the border didn't, but the country they are now illegally in, must

"Think of the children" and "people will die" are the classic "don't think just vote like I want" lines in politics. Get really suspicious when you hear them.

Both sides use it for their favorite pet causes.

In fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXWhbUUE4ko
classic

I feel bad for illegals but you have to have strong borders man. Its tough love

Fix your shit hole country or ask for aid

I mean, look at what the dalai lama said

He's getting hate for telling immigrants that they shouldn't make an established home their home, by abandoning their old one.

Id be down to aid in a mexico civil war

@AnthonyLaCosaNostra

But they never ask for aid and dont declare civil war on the cartels

They act like everything is fine and dandy

We have sent a bit of aid at times.

And there is some cross-border law enforcement collaboration on cartels.

sending aid does shitall

There are multi billion dollar cartels ruling your fucking country and you act like mexico is still a great nation

No i mean full on war

Complete revolution and reinstalling a REAL democracy

You can't just send in troops to a neighboring country.

Can too lol

sending aid is intended to 'float' a group until what they are lacking can be self sustained... All that happens is they rely on that and let other systems fall apart in the mean time

It's a pretty obvious declaration of war.

Also, just have mexico shoot across the border like they did with Texas

We need a new california

Declaration on cartels yes a REAL war

Just gut mexico and reinstall an uncorrupt government