Message from @xorgy

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2018-09-23 20:56:23 UTC  

its fine, either we make more food, or there is massive die off

2018-09-23 20:56:28 UTC  

this is how nature works

2018-09-23 20:56:36 UTC  

Well the argument is not that we can't produce enough food, it's that the methods we have for producing food fuck things up

2018-09-23 20:56:43 UTC  

yup

2018-09-23 20:56:45 UTC  

Is it known? I don't know that. I don't think we all own farms and shit....

2018-09-23 20:56:47 UTC  

same with water

2018-09-23 20:56:59 UTC  

Methane and CO2 production, loss of habitat etc

2018-09-23 20:57:03 UTC  

Nitrate based fertilizer is what we use almost everywhere

2018-09-23 20:57:11 UTC  

Once we get cheap energy through fission or fusion (the one we don’t have) it will be easy to clean up the mess we made. We can do it now, it’s just not energy efficient.

2018-09-23 20:57:12 UTC  

It slowly pollutes the water tables that it sinks into

2018-09-23 20:57:59 UTC  

use hydroponics, now we just need to have the energy to synthesize water to feed them

2018-09-23 20:57:59 UTC  

>implying greens and normies will allow mass adoption of fission
It's the correct answer but we'll always get fearmongering

2018-09-23 20:58:02 UTC  

It's sad

2018-09-23 20:58:55 UTC  

Fission is safer then anything. It doesn’t have radiation and if it has a melt down, it just breaks and stop making that energy. It’s like the opposite of the other lol.

2018-09-23 20:59:26 UTC  

i think you mean fusion?

2018-09-23 20:59:34 UTC  

Yeah he has them backwards.

2018-09-23 20:59:35 UTC  

I'd be less concerned with food and energy, more concerned with the raw materials, such as rare earth minerals, that go into everything modern society uses. We have a lot for current uses but as society develops and the rest of the world catches up, we'll see just how long they hold out before we have to expand beyond Earth.

2018-09-23 20:59:36 UTC  

So once we have cheap energy, we can adapt more vehicles like trains to hall goods. Cutting down emissions massively. (I might)

2018-09-23 20:59:59 UTC  

Met, so you watch Issiac Author on YouTube?

2018-09-23 21:00:04 UTC  

Nope

2018-09-23 21:00:09 UTC  

@Atkins what's your source for Deirdre being on the EFF advisory board?

2018-09-23 21:00:10 UTC  

Never heard of him

2018-09-23 21:00:10 UTC  

Fission is nuclear power

2018-09-23 21:00:38 UTC  

Fission and Fusion are both nuclear arent they?

2018-09-23 21:00:48 UTC  

Different types but yes

2018-09-23 21:00:50 UTC  
2018-09-23 21:00:52 UTC  

You should, I think if everyone watched him.. they would instantly chill lol. He is our carl sagon (sry spelling off, kinda meh)

2018-09-23 21:00:55 UTC  

fission is current nuclear power, fusion is what we are working on

2018-09-23 21:01:07 UTC  

Fusion is the goal then

2018-09-23 21:01:12 UTC  

Fusion is the sun

2018-09-23 21:01:13 UTC  

Thanks for that G

2018-09-23 21:01:14 UTC  

Yes

2018-09-23 21:02:02 UTC  

Once we have fusion, we can have a decent life for all imo. It’s really the next level of civilization. Like what the internet did for communication.

2018-09-23 21:02:14 UTC  

@Eric Black eh, I'm not actually concerned about it though. I'll long be dead before it becomes an issue and recycling will delay it. Then there's the potential for converting some types of materials into uses for others.

2018-09-23 21:02:29 UTC  
2018-09-23 21:02:42 UTC  

Met, we might be 10 years out. We are very close

2018-09-23 21:02:55 UTC  

matter doesn't disappear, but the energy required to turn it back into what is useful for us is way too much

2018-09-23 21:03:09 UTC  

at least until we nail down fusion, and even then

2018-09-23 21:03:32 UTC  

I highly doubt 10 years out. People have constantly said the same about oil yet continued exploration finds new pockets of what ever resource is being sought after.

2018-09-23 21:03:55 UTC  

Either way, our grandchildren will have it and it will be a way to fix the earth. Not to mention leave it, again issiac authors videos are epic on such things.