oh thx

preventing total failure is good, social equity is a horrible pipe dream and part of why social justice is terrible but that's a more in-depth subject

@oprahsminge she works on tim's third channel

Subverse

there's a third channel?

Title IX is second wave feminists.

And she's the girl on the podcasts

I miss Tim's subverse podcasts with Emily

Tim knows girls?

social equity is an attempt to create equality of outcome, which is absurd given that people are all different

which is especially funny when tim advocates for people to figure out their own shit and not just do what they're told and expect handouts, but you're using that as a defense of his support of social justice

I agree with him on too many things to not assume he has a bad definition of social justice until I find out from him specifically, which now I can watch his video and see what "social justice becoming too extreme" is to him.

@oprahsminge Girl on the left

"can social justice go too far" not thinking that it went too far like 5 years ago is one of my top reasons for my belief that he's got a bad definition.

"social justice is a good thing when it creates equality of opportunity"
@Abel quote from early in his recent video, directly refuting your equity argument.

Not really

Tim and Emily look like siblings

yeah the intro of this new video literally refutes the things you said

He actually seems to agree with me

I said social equity meant promoting equal acceptance

***words mean things***

Leading to equality of opportunity

He's probably grooming her. GOTEM

Good, Social Justice

Bad social justice is where you compel people to consider everyone equal

Legally, or by mob justice

hmm the 13th amendment failed the first time it was brought to the house because the democrats voted it out

a year later the republicans had a majority in both houses and managed to get it through

```eq·ui·ty
noun
noun: equity

1.
the quality of being fair and impartial.```
This is literally the opposite of everything social justice advocates for

on a second vote

they advocate for discrimination in favor of certain groups

and LITERAL SEGREGATION in some cases

Yep

Bad Social justice

Where it doesn't lead to equality, it simply leads to more division

A particularly good example is the Evergreen Fiasco

you guffaw'd my christianity argument, but the crusades were still done by christians, the bad social justice is still social justice and it's still the dominant form of social justice

it's still the one that went to the UN to argue that video games are horrible and sexist and need to be changed to include more non-gamers

Probably. which is why I don't call myself a social justice advocate anymore

dayum democrats... "In 1864, an amendment abolishing slavery passed the U.S. Senate but died in the House as Democrats rallied in the name of states’ rights. The election of 1864 brought Lincoln back to the White Housealong withsignificant Republican majorities in both houses, so it appeared the amendment was headed for passage when the new Congress convened in March 1865. Lincoln preferred that the amendment receive bipartisan support–some Democrats indicated support for the measure, but many still resisted. The amendment passed 119 to 56, seven votes above the necessary two-thirds majority."

Just like how I don't call myself a feminist anymore