I don't know where you're from but I assume you have a small amount of land to go around and you don't want people whom don't appreciate your values invading the welfare state that is your country

I understand that

We're living in the new era right now. Liberalism is dead in the water. Border protectionism is an old era argument that doesn't have a place right now. (Unless you're still getting raped by migrants in which case never mind) Authoritarianism is the thing we ALL need to be fighting right now

lol

people are retarded

If you want an end to authoritarianism, you should have nuked China long ago ... we're paying the price of leniency toward the CCP. I hope that we at least learn this lesson.

For now, authoritarianism is necessary, because people keep being retarded about the health of their countries.

Sure, fight authoritarianism once the health situation improves.

And then stick to your principles and demand that your country cease all trade with China.

If you were America, I would even tell you to lobby your government to just fucking naval-blockade China out of existence.

Right now, being an anti-authoritarian is like being that guy in the phalanx who wants to go his own way because "fuck the general".

Sure, get everyone killed, asshole.

Pardon me?

I'm venting.

Alright

Being anti authoritarian is of the upmost virtue at the moment. I will abide by the measures my government has set out to deal with wuhanflu. But not by force. The moment is now to keep our governments in check to MAKE SURE we return to freedom. Who would want to live in the amazon police blimp state? I certainly don't.

> But not by force

LOL

The lowest common denominator, my dude. If noone but one guy needs force, then force is needed. UK is a great example of how noone stays at home voluntarily, and then they bitch about police being authoritarian. YOU'RE MAKING THEM! STAY HOME!

Austria doesn't have those problems. Slovenia has, but not as much.

You're right, people are stupid

It's because of those people that our freedoms are being stripped away, or that's what the media wants you to believe. The fact of the matter is that every day so far world leaders have been incrementally closing their fist with most countries adopting the same (if not similar) practices to deal with this pandemic. It's a war without soldiers, invading the lands with legislation

Don't even get me started on wahway's 5g invasion

Fuck China

Exactly, fuck China.

After you've stayed at home for a few months, of course.

Yeah, let the virus run it's course and then peacefully protest the fuck out of all levels of government

wtf did I even read

I'm still wondering to what point "undue" authoritarianism ought to be tolerated with peaceful options, and instead be dealt with using force

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCyqcoC747o

none of these shutdowns really make sense

Italians keep dying despite strict lockdown

@Machinimal they are infecting people in hospitals

People are getting infected getting groceries

or through the apartment ventilation

that's hard to do in general if they go with masks

in hospitals though, they have all medical staff infected

and working

it got me very mad when I found out

It just seems like it'd make more sense to quarantine people who are at risk from everyone else

I have family members working at hospitals

they refuse to even test them

they are literally working while infected

Yeah they're getting really tight on supplies

and trying to maintain long term supply

but a shutdown only exacerbates that