Message from @Puggums

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2020-04-08 11:36:34 UTC  

we should have just completely closed borders to china

2020-04-08 11:36:37 UTC  

in december

2020-04-08 11:36:39 UTC  

not in like

2020-04-08 11:36:43 UTC  

february

2020-04-08 11:36:56 UTC  

well there wasnt much idea of it being a pandemic in dec

2020-04-08 11:37:08 UTC  

It was already getting pretty bad

2020-04-08 11:37:17 UTC  

yeah but chinas a shithole

2020-04-08 11:37:19 UTC  

media downplayed it as just a flu

2020-04-08 11:37:41 UTC  

there's no way we would have known really

2020-04-08 11:37:56 UTC  

unless you had people really close to it

2020-04-08 11:38:16 UTC  

plus it would have been a difficult move politically

2020-04-08 11:42:31 UTC  

FF believes that property rights can exist outside of the state

2020-04-08 11:42:36 UTC  

It's so utterly retarded

2020-04-08 11:42:40 UTC  

I can't even

2020-04-08 11:43:01 UTC  

so he believes in gun rights?

2020-04-08 11:43:41 UTC  

a hippie commune?

2020-04-08 11:44:00 UTC  

it's the communist utopia, wacka, which if you're not an absolute mongoloid and wake up to reality, actually looks like Mad Max

2020-04-08 11:44:05 UTC  

"Might is Right"

2020-04-08 11:44:30 UTC  

i dont think that really makes sense

2020-04-08 11:45:02 UTC  

If there's no system of law, how do you retain your property, Pugs?

2020-04-08 11:45:16 UTC  

what happened to the system of law

2020-04-08 11:45:19 UTC  

did it die

2020-04-08 11:45:31 UTC  

It doesn't exist in a communist state

2020-04-08 11:45:39 UTC  

i think thats a stretch

2020-04-08 11:45:46 UTC  

explain yourself

2020-04-08 11:45:48 UTC  

Government doesn't exist in a communist state

2020-04-08 11:45:59 UTC  

Therefore system of law doesn't exist in a communist state

2020-04-08 11:46:14 UTC  

Think: pre-agrarian man

2020-04-08 11:46:23 UTC  

i feel like in a flat hierarchy you can still enforce laws

2020-04-08 11:46:41 UTC  

arent there companies that have flat hierarchies

2020-04-08 11:47:14 UTC  

thats not any communist state Ive ever seen

2020-04-08 11:47:49 UTC  

only semi liberal communist state I can think of is indigenous american tribes

2020-04-08 11:48:23 UTC  

doesnt communism require the state to enforce collective ownership

2020-04-08 11:48:33 UTC  

at least at scale

2020-04-08 11:49:09 UTC  

not really...

2020-04-08 11:49:30 UTC  

although... depends on how you define collective...

2020-04-08 11:49:56 UTC  

For private or personal property to be enforced requires a state

2020-04-08 11:49:57 UTC  

you could argue at scale there could be "no ownership" rather than collective ownership

2020-04-08 11:50:08 UTC  

It requires an authority

2020-04-08 11:50:22 UTC  

an individual could protect his sht

2020-04-08 11:50:22 UTC  

It requires a system of arbitration