Message from @Timcast

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2018-10-06 13:31:48 UTC  

So something around the 10% mark seems accurate.

2018-10-06 13:32:04 UTC  

When you get to the 5%-10% range statistical noise becomes nasty.

2018-10-06 13:32:26 UTC  

But yeah, that is kinda deceptive if the data provided says 7% and the chart uses 10%.

2018-10-06 13:32:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/498125387856084992/meme1.jpg

2018-10-06 13:32:30 UTC  

this is what went viral

2018-10-06 13:32:33 UTC  

total fake news

2018-10-06 13:32:41 UTC  

That's really bad.

2018-10-06 13:32:46 UTC  

the creator made a graph of 1000 men

2018-10-06 13:32:59 UTC  

but then the % were bsaed on 100

2018-10-06 13:33:07 UTC  

so she cut a full order of magnitude from the actual visual

2018-10-06 13:33:15 UTC  

Do you know the source of the viral graphic?

2018-10-06 13:33:21 UTC  

its on the bottom of the graphic

2018-10-06 13:33:23 UTC  

That's really deceptive.

2018-10-06 13:33:27 UTC  

yuuuup

2018-10-06 13:33:31 UTC  

and when called out

2018-10-06 13:33:32 UTC  

she went

2018-10-06 13:33:35 UTC  

"its a conversation starter"

2018-10-06 13:33:43 UTC  

even the link on the graph disproves her claims

2018-10-06 13:33:48 UTC  

it was meant to look official

2018-10-06 13:33:48 UTC  

The usual excuse.

2018-10-06 13:34:00 UTC  

but no one will type out that url from the graphic

2018-10-06 13:35:11 UTC  

Note the date. This apparently got debunked in 2013.

2018-10-06 13:35:40 UTC  

The Enliven project looks to me like an activists' blog.

2018-10-06 13:36:33 UTC  
2018-10-06 13:36:46 UTC  

he warned us

2018-10-06 13:36:49 UTC  

and its only getting worse

2018-10-06 13:36:53 UTC  

and will only get worse

2018-10-06 13:39:37 UTC  

I think confirmation bias and the like has been known forever though.

2018-10-06 13:39:50 UTC  

And it's just as bad--if not worse--in places like Academia.

2018-10-06 13:40:51 UTC  

In the case of theenlivenproject, it appears to have changed to a YouTube channel and a new blog.

It looks much more professional, but appears to be the same person spearheading it all.

https://theuncomfortableconversation.org/

2018-10-06 13:43:48 UTC  

That's an interesting National Review article. Should be relatively straightforward to confirm if one has the data. And far more relevant to the Ford-Kavanaugh case than it may initially look given that the prosecutor the Republicans hired didn't think she could even get a search warrant.

2018-10-06 13:46:57 UTC  

It actually could be spun both ways by both parties too.

2018-10-06 13:47:35 UTC  

I don't get the obsession about the rate of false accusations anyway

2018-10-06 13:48:07 UTC  

It should always be a case to case basis, with the bases that the accused in innocent until proven guilty

2018-10-06 13:48:47 UTC  

The rate at which something happens should be entirely irrelevant

2018-10-06 13:49:46 UTC  

In terms of resource allocation or deciding what's a "worthwhile problem" good stats on the occurrence of these things do matter.

2018-10-06 13:50:08 UTC  

In principle you're correct, but in practice you often have to weigh resources and things.

2018-10-06 13:51:21 UTC  

In terms of #MeToo, if you can show that false accusations don't really happen, it makes for an easier argument that you don't need to actually go through the effort of proving the allegations carefully.

2018-10-06 13:51:35 UTC  

Which is what the "sexual assault" groups want