Had some fun messing with that narrative, but bleagh..

I'm glad I dodged this crazy stuff

The bombing of Pearl Harbor and the two nukes are equal in terms of barbaric nature.

@Jerm70, I don't see the logic there.

nah

barbarism is subjective

the nukes were in honorable warfare

Especially as the motivation was very different.

pearl harbour was an unprovked sneak attack

and surprise declaration of war

the very heart of dishonour

Well the nukes were done during a time of war when everyone was afraid of the ramifications of using them.

Not sure I would call it dishonour, but they were definitely operating based on different rules of engagement.

The nukes were, at the time, feared for their might. People didn't understand fallout yet.

declaring a war with a surprise attack is dishonorable af

Not by Asian standards.

also the fallout wasnt that big a deal

the cities still exist and are populous

there were just a couple thousand post bombing casualties from rad poisoning

The fallout is why we rebuilt everything. When they dropped the things, they thought they were just blowing people up so they would stop fighting to the last.

They didn't expect the kind of deaths a lot of people got.

@Firefairy asians dont know what honour is

fallout of nukes is a lot less severe than that of say fission reactors

and rebuilding stuff doesnt make the fallout go away

its still there

They have whole systems defining honour. It's just a version that seems weird to anyone not raised in it. Works the same the other way around.

until it all decays

bushido isnt about honour tbh

Yeah, but the rebuilding was a guilt thing.

its like confucianism

I didn't say bushido was.

justifying authoritarian governments

cuz asians dont have honour lul

and thats the closest thing they do have to it

Unless you can define honor, I don't know there is much point to this.

You're saying no culture in an entire continent has a concept of honor.

That's a pretty strong claim.

how about the concept of announcing the challenge before coming and sneak attacking someone hmmm?

That's a tenet of Western Honor.

How about the concept of never surrendering?

or betraying a major trading partner with a full invasion with no warning