History had already gone to hell. One of my friends, a Japanese exchange student, had another guy that she knew but I did not, come up and apologize to her for the "hoax" of Pearl Harbor. Apparently, his American History teacher had taught him it was a complete hoax used to justify bombing the crap out of the Japanese.

all school teaches you is how to regurgitate facts and figures

She lit into him like mad. Apparently, managing that attack is something of a point of pride for some Japanese people.

My drawing teacher thought the "liberal" in a LIberal Arts degree was the political kind...

Imagine having pride in a terrorist attack.

japs deserved to get bombed

hoes mad

it doesn't teach you how to think

he shouldve showed captain doolittle memes and mad her cry

To be fair.

The Self Esteem class was part of the Women's Studies department, our textbook was a book from the 80s that basically blamed patriarchy for all female self esteem issues, and our professor was a self-proclaimed 50-year-old bull dyke.

My school taught me well that's what's weird

also to be fair on the japs they did pull pearl harbour off flawlessly

Had some fun messing with that narrative, but bleagh..

I'm glad I dodged this crazy stuff

The bombing of Pearl Harbor and the two nukes are equal in terms of barbaric nature.

@Jerm70, I don't see the logic there.

nah

barbarism is subjective

the nukes were in honorable warfare

Especially as the motivation was very different.

pearl harbour was an unprovked sneak attack

and surprise declaration of war

the very heart of dishonour

Well the nukes were done during a time of war when everyone was afraid of the ramifications of using them.

Not sure I would call it dishonour, but they were definitely operating based on different rules of engagement.

The nukes were, at the time, feared for their might. People didn't understand fallout yet.

declaring a war with a surprise attack is dishonorable af

Not by Asian standards.

also the fallout wasnt that big a deal

the cities still exist and are populous

there were just a couple thousand post bombing casualties from rad poisoning

The fallout is why we rebuilt everything. When they dropped the things, they thought they were just blowing people up so they would stop fighting to the last.

They didn't expect the kind of deaths a lot of people got.

@Firefairy asians dont know what honour is

fallout of nukes is a lot less severe than that of say fission reactors

and rebuilding stuff doesnt make the fallout go away

its still there

They have whole systems defining honour. It's just a version that seems weird to anyone not raised in it. Works the same the other way around.

until it all decays

bushido isnt about honour tbh