Message from @RedShocktrooper

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2020-03-31 20:18:37 UTC  

From fathers to decent male role models. Boys have fuck all in the sense of good examples of masculinity and goals

2020-03-31 20:19:36 UTC  

that question can be filled with literally any distiguishing qualities, including nationality, religion, and even fucking specific military loyalties

2020-03-31 20:19:45 UTC  

It can

2020-03-31 20:19:50 UTC  

people being too eager to immediately spring black people into the same economic standing as white people probably set them back on it massively because they didn't actually build into it.

2020-03-31 20:19:58 UTC  

so its fucking useless to your racial argument

2020-03-31 20:20:08 UTC  

It is not

2020-03-31 20:20:09 UTC  

see: when poor people win the lotto

2020-03-31 20:20:44 UTC  

@Dᴏᴏғᴜs Dᴏʀᴋᴍᴀɴᴇ I don't think seeing someone as different is enough to make it easier to harm them.
What makes someone more prone to hurt someone is to dehumanize or demonize the other individual. When you "Other" someone, that makes it easy to justify harming them.

2020-03-31 20:21:04 UTC  

White people blaming their problems on minorities while not realizing their own governments sexually traffic white children explicitly is honestly the most pathetic shit

2020-03-31 20:21:41 UTC  

^

2020-03-31 20:21:50 UTC  

"b...b...but brown man mean to me"<:why:462286147473637407>

2020-03-31 20:21:56 UTC  

That's not too different than what you ( @Dᴏᴏғᴜs Dᴏʀᴋᴍᴀɴᴇ ) are advocating for. When you put people as other groups that's when really weird stuff can happen.

2020-03-31 20:22:58 UTC  

The black community has a shit load of issues that stem from the "Good intentions" of guilty white people.

2020-03-31 20:23:21 UTC  

the white man's burden is the worst thing to happen to black people tbh.

2020-03-31 20:23:34 UTC  

<:thistbh:582698435896147978>

2020-03-31 20:24:41 UTC  

and has probably lead to an undue demonization of "acting white" (wanting a higher or better education and a stripe of industriousness) on the basis of the majority of white people they interact with basically talking down to them.

2020-03-31 20:24:50 UTC  

like

2020-03-31 20:24:51 UTC  

Please white people just leave black people alone 2020.
The complete coddling is nothing but detrimental

2020-03-31 20:25:06 UTC  

i'm a fucking native american, aight?

2020-03-31 20:25:18 UTC  

if some guilty white guy offered me help jsut because of that

2020-03-31 20:25:23 UTC  

i'd be fucking insulted

2020-03-31 20:25:36 UTC  

It's just the racism of low expectations

2020-03-31 20:25:43 UTC  

It's rude. It's annoying.

2020-03-31 20:26:15 UTC  

Do you prefer native American or Indian?

2020-03-31 20:26:43 UTC  

If you want to see something funny I highly recommend just going up to some upper middle class white Karen who is going on about how much black people or whoever need help. Look her in the eye and tell her "Black people don't need you. I don't need you. You are doing more harm than good"

2020-03-31 20:26:47 UTC  

It gets them everytime

2020-03-31 20:26:50 UTC  

i prefer redskin but that one's technically a slur.

2020-03-31 20:27:21 UTC  

wait, so saying you were native american was hypothetical?

2020-03-31 20:27:33 UTC  

no, i am one

2020-03-31 20:27:37 UTC  

ah, k

2020-03-31 20:28:01 UTC  

just that the way I understand it, the term native american is seeing a rejection among indians

2020-03-31 20:28:20 UTC  

Really?

2020-03-31 20:28:22 UTC  

well

2020-03-31 20:28:35 UTC  

Do Native Americans cycle through acceptable terms like black people @RedShocktrooper

2020-03-31 20:28:35 UTC  

i see it as an expression of my patriotism to my adoptive nation

2020-03-31 20:28:44 UTC  

native ***AMERICAN***

2020-03-31 20:28:59 UTC  

well having just one word for the whole is already extremely unhelpful and apocryphal

2020-03-31 20:29:27 UTC  

@nimble_newt it's more like a crapshoot because American Indians/First Peoples/etc are actually about as varied as Europeans or Africans.

2020-03-31 20:29:44 UTC  

^

2020-03-31 20:29:51 UTC  

I suppose that's true.

2020-03-31 20:30:00 UTC  

I don't really care about those things tbh.