Message from @Pax Americana

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2020-03-12 12:01:20 UTC  

I can actually sympathise with this line of thinking

2020-03-12 12:01:36 UTC  

But everything else the EU does undermines it's own existence

2020-03-12 12:01:55 UTC  

i'm pretty sure there'd be a way to do that without turning into a totalitarian control state ruled by unelected bureucrats though

2020-03-12 12:02:16 UTC  

they don't even have the balls putinistan has

2020-03-12 12:02:24 UTC  

so worst of all worlds really

2020-03-12 12:04:10 UTC  

Guy verhofstadt is right about the world of tomorrow being about Empire

2020-03-12 12:04:24 UTC  

Though, the world has always been that way

2020-03-12 12:05:10 UTC  

Which is why I'm for britain having much stronger ties with her white dominions

2020-03-12 12:05:28 UTC  

Australia, Canada and New Zealand

2020-03-12 12:07:07 UTC  

yeah the world was a better place when birts had the empire still

2020-03-12 12:07:08 UTC  

😄

2020-03-12 12:08:23 UTC  

i mean sure there were bad and questionable policies but on average even the developing areas benefited from it

2020-03-12 12:09:17 UTC  

but as long as the world police is western i think we can maintain a reasonably peaceful world

2020-03-12 12:09:46 UTC  

Why do you thing lefties keep slandering the British empire?

2020-03-12 12:10:00 UTC  

if usa were to go into an isolationist mode and chinese or russian world power were to take over things would be interesting for sure

2020-03-12 12:10:47 UTC  

i imagine there are a variety of reasons ranging from legitimate concerns over peoples' right to self govern to irrational self hatred

2020-03-12 12:14:34 UTC  

but imho it is quite clear not everyone is capable of self governance 😂

2020-03-12 12:24:06 UTC  

> Why do you thing lefties keep slandering the British empire?

Because it was our zenith, and therefore dont want nostalgia for it or even ideas of resurrecting it

2020-03-12 12:25:39 UTC  

If the US were to go isolationist it would make Europe the centre of most of the world's geopolitics again

2020-03-12 12:26:05 UTC  

China is only as powerful as much as the world let's them

2020-03-12 12:26:54 UTC  

When Britannia ruled the waves, the world was relatively peaceful and there was a global order characterized by British morals and ethics. People today hate on the great powers of the past because they dont understand them.

2020-03-12 12:27:24 UTC  

The people in charge of the 'lefty' narrative do understand them.

2020-03-12 12:28:05 UTC  

I used to think they did. But they believe in social constructivism rather than the organic origin of nations.

2020-03-12 12:28:14 UTC  

They dont understand what an empire is

2020-03-12 12:28:23 UTC  

They just want to destroy that

2020-03-12 12:28:23 UTC  

Let alone what a nation really is

2020-03-12 12:28:33 UTC  

Indeed they do

2020-03-12 12:29:27 UTC  

They understand what empire is - they have their own in the form of internationalism/globalism

2020-03-12 12:29:36 UTC  

But you see

2020-03-12 12:29:55 UTC  

Internationalism and globalism are not imperial

2020-03-12 12:30:02 UTC  

In an act of supreme irony

2020-03-12 12:30:35 UTC  

They 'deconstruct' organic forms of government while creating the greatest social constructs they can think up

2020-03-12 12:31:23 UTC  

A global federation of liberal states is not actually possible

2020-03-12 12:31:45 UTC  

So instead they create this contrived façade

2020-03-12 12:31:54 UTC  

A world they would like would be a global version of Brazil

2020-03-12 12:32:02 UTC  

Indeed

2020-03-12 12:32:03 UTC  

Or something like that

2020-03-12 12:32:29 UTC  

Liberalism isn't their end-game

2020-03-12 12:32:35 UTC  

It's a tool they use

2020-03-12 12:32:38 UTC  

That is not to say that a Global State is impossible, just that it could never exist in such a fashion

2020-03-12 12:32:51 UTC  

And absolutely