Message from @Aldomuz

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2020-03-06 10:38:50 UTC  

the marxist theory is about the relationship between labour and capital

2020-03-06 10:38:55 UTC  

Every market is limited by laws and cultural norms.

2020-03-06 10:39:14 UTC  

oh okay so now we have limitations of these free markets

2020-03-06 10:39:48 UTC  

So essentially free markets don't exist

2020-03-06 10:39:48 UTC  

the only way to have a FREE market is to remove all law and all culture from the equation

2020-03-06 10:39:55 UTC  

okay good

2020-03-06 10:40:10 UTC  

so what happens if there are no laws and *culture*

2020-03-06 10:40:30 UTC  

and i make a product cheaper than my competition and run them out

2020-03-06 10:40:44 UTC  

the competition kills you

2020-03-06 10:40:49 UTC  

how?

2020-03-06 10:40:55 UTC  

with weapons

2020-03-06 10:41:26 UTC  

now i understand why you think there were too many numbers in Kapital

2020-03-06 10:41:45 UTC  

Not being able to nuke your opponent is a limitation on the free market.

2020-03-06 10:42:00 UTC  

LANGUAGE is a limitation to the free market

2020-03-06 10:43:10 UTC  

LIFE is a limitation to the free market

2020-03-06 10:43:51 UTC  

Is it not the case that a monopoly prevents competitors from bringing an alternate product to market. By utilising legislation, corporate espionage and the artificial inflation of needed rescources an established company can make competition non viable and prevents the consumer from voting with their custom by ensuring only one option remains. In politics it's called a dictatorship in commerce it's a monopoly.

2020-03-06 10:45:54 UTC  

My question is whats wrong with monopolies? If they can provide a service, better and cheaper than the competition and people find it convenient, why not?

2020-03-06 10:46:11 UTC  

-w-

2020-03-06 10:46:27 UTC  

He literally just answered that

2020-03-06 10:47:21 UTC  

Im asking is it wrong?

2020-03-06 10:47:31 UTC  

Yes

2020-03-06 10:47:33 UTC  

why

2020-03-06 10:47:46 UTC  

what has morality got to do with products and services

2020-03-06 10:48:03 UTC  

You ever read about 1800's america

2020-03-06 10:48:33 UTC  

Im more interested in understanding why it's wrong for monopolies to exist

2020-03-06 10:49:02 UTC  

> what has morality got to do with products and services

People have to agree to respect property if you even want to have trade.

2020-03-06 10:49:42 UTC  

what has that got to do with anything, me buying a product and a service from a company has what to do with property?

2020-03-06 10:50:08 UTC  

@faultfiction you mean what's wrong with a benevolent dictator? How do you develop or improve without the ability to compare two products. Company A has a product, company B is trying to develop a product, if company A prevents the development of company B product how can the markets compare them. If company B brings its product to market and the markets choose company A enmass this is a fair win.

2020-03-06 10:50:53 UTC  

How is Company A preventing company B from developing a product. In a society with no laws and culture and a free market society what has that go to do with anything

2020-03-06 10:51:23 UTC  

You can't have a society with no culture

2020-03-06 10:51:34 UTC  

You can't have laws without a society

2020-03-06 10:51:54 UTC  

Ahhh

2020-03-06 10:51:54 UTC  

*Tech monopolies have become a necessity in the modern era because of culture*

2020-03-06 10:52:07 UTC  

@faultfiction are we not discussing the intersection of free markets and monopolies ?

2020-03-06 10:52:28 UTC  

Yes because google is the go to engine

2020-03-06 10:52:33 UTC  

As are iPhones

2020-03-06 10:52:35 UTC  

so is Bing

2020-03-06 10:52:37 UTC  

and Samsung

2020-03-06 10:52:41 UTC  

Or Microsoft office

2020-03-06 10:52:59 UTC  

Any movie is essentially owned by disney

2020-03-06 10:53:05 UTC  

is it