Would you say the government has also failed to do a lot of things right?

Communism argues that its implementation would increase the welfare of the lower class citizens

It also fails to do that

At least in the capitalist system

Would you say the government has also failed to do a lot of things right?

Its possible to argue for higher wages

Yeah the Soviet Union was great. They paid a living wage in the gulags don’t you know.

Sure but just because the government fails to deliver on “some things” doesnt invalidate capitalism, unions and communism fail to deliver the whole point of having communism or a union

Again when i speak of unions i mean unions in their current state

So will you apply the same thought process to unions?

Which thought process sorry?

that the government fails to deliver on some things

Read what i said

Capitalism fails in some respects, yes, its not perfect, you cant have perfect

But it doesnt

Fail in ALL respects

But you believe communism has to be perfect

No

Stop putting words in my mouth

Our standard of not causing massive catastrophe is not us asking for perfection.

when did capitalism first start?

Communism doesnt have to be perfect, but it has to function

Consistently

And without causing major humanitarian disasters

If a capitalist economy crashes i can still work enough to feed myseld

do you believe capitalism hasn't caused major humanitarian disasters?

Not on the same scale as communism

What scale is that

Oh idk

Lets go for a conservative number

I think it is not the fault of capitalism but rather it’s operators of the time.

The death of over 10 million people

Due to starvation

Slen would it be impossible for you to apply that same logic to communism

or will you go with double standards

Ok let me adjust what slen said here

Capitalism functions consistently even with corrupt leaders who skim of the top like communist leaders often do

I can apply that logic. Because communism has never worked. Therefore it is not dependent on the operator. Capitalism has been demonstrated to work.

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Unless of course communism has never had the right operator

But if theyre that hard to find