its interesting though... the guardian lost huge numbers of readers, but started begging for donations and subscriptions from its core reader base... and although it haemorrhaged readers it actually increased its profits for the first time in decades

Guardian is about 50/50, but even the news is cast through such a partisan lens, it might as well be opinion

so theres no wonder its just heading more and more partisan

yeah I was going to say, there isn't just opinion and news, there's also cherrypicking too

I'd be sad if Guardian went under - they're a gold mine of lolcow-worthy articles

true

when theres a story... and you see its from independent, guardian, guido... you already know, without even knowing the details, what their side of the story will be about

Plus the Mail

Good luck getting @faultfiction to understand that, wacka

you could just write FF instead of tagging me Eccles

Where's the fun in that?

and you can see they will change depending on their core base too

like if you read guardian articles prior to early 2016 you will mainly see anti-EU articles

seriously?

wow

so what changed?

in fact I think it was owen jones who coined the term lexit

well, I guess the same thing that changed in the Labour party itself

that's when this shit seemed to kick off properly

actually it was about 2014

> like if you read guardian articles prior to early 2016 you will mainly see anti-EU articles
@wacka
wish there was a tinfoil hat emoji for this lmao

you think it's a conspiracy that the guardian changed?

Labour party has changed massively over the last 10 years

The Guardian obviously has changed because its in the nature of organisations to change. Not that it registes in this server.

They'd spent the preceding 35 years expunging the fuckwit communists and hardline socialists in order to make themselves vaguely electable, and now that's totally reversed

Labour party before that was centre-left globalist

Labour hasn't been proper Labour for like 20 odd years

Labour became centre-left globlist in the mid 90s

yeah

Labour was left-wing nationalist prior to that

But making up dumbfuck conspiracies of *pRiOr tO 2016 aKcTuAlLy dEy wRe aNtI Eu* is just laughable

based on what?

One guy tells you that and you lap it up

Are there some examples of Guardian articles then and now that illustrate this?

hardly surprising in this server

I'm not lapping it up, that's why I said "seriously?"

i'd like to see some articles

Me too, im sure Eccles will soon get a notifcation from the Central Team at Guido who're doing some hardcore journalism to find out Guardian and its EU flip flops

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/dec/13/left-right-challenge-eu

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/14/left-reject-eu-greece-eurosceptic

based