Message from @Eden
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I fucking hate semantics
Is this guy really putting the definition ahead of reality?
Definitions are inherently flawed
By design
Because that's how English works
No, they are just popularly attributed , the school of philosophy is just the thought exercises around the word.
Arguing them is the epitome of linguistic retardation
You misunderstand the whole basis of philosophy
point is, your source material there has fascinating and insightful philosophical questions such as "does altruism exist" and "does egoism exist" and it concludes that yes, it's alright to care about other people, and yes, sometimes you shouldn't be altruistic. how fucking wonderful. naturally many people have wasted years of study on just this wishy washy semantic bullshit to come to a common sense answer.
Using definitions in arguments is even a fallacy
It isn't.
Definitions are the basis of an argument. Words without meaning yields arguments without meaning.
Loo
Loo
@NinjaQuick They literally cannot be
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THERE IS NO TRUTH
NOTHING IS REAL
ooh boy you've attracted nihilist thought
Except a word without meaning is just a series of sounds.
The only way a definition can be the premise of an argument is if you sit down prior to tue argument and agree on a specific definition
So you're fucking retarded. You're misusing the logical fallacy.
Anything else is fallacious
exactly
Just because it can be wrong doesn't mean it is always wrong.
You're really bad at thinking , phad.
It's always wrong
Absolutism is a position of small minds
The only time it's acceptable is if the other person specifically agrees to it
That sounds less like an argument and more like communism.
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An appeal to definition is not the same as the basis of language which is common understanding of the meaning of a word.
I didn't say it was
Appeal to definition is pretending a definition can be a premise of an argument
Your stance of demanding that Eden abide by your definition of altruism is an example of appeal to definition.
definitions should be obvious to each participant beforehand, and if they are not, should only be resolved in favour of one participant. if the definition proposed is meaningless or simply not commonly accepted, the participant is thrown from a cliff. that's how fucking mad I am at semantics ruining the fields of academia that should've saved the last few decades.
It almost never can be
Whereas the group here agree with the common vernacular