Message from @Eden

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2020-03-17 15:05:24 UTC  

I fucking hate semantics

2020-03-17 15:05:31 UTC  

Is this guy really putting the definition ahead of reality?

2020-03-17 15:05:45 UTC  

Definitions are inherently flawed

2020-03-17 15:05:56 UTC  

By design

2020-03-17 15:06:02 UTC  

Because that's how English works

2020-03-17 15:06:16 UTC  

No, they are just popularly attributed , the school of philosophy is just the thought exercises around the word.

2020-03-17 15:06:17 UTC  

Arguing them is the epitome of linguistic retardation

2020-03-17 15:06:31 UTC  

You misunderstand the whole basis of philosophy

2020-03-17 15:06:36 UTC  

point is, your source material there has fascinating and insightful philosophical questions such as "does altruism exist" and "does egoism exist" and it concludes that yes, it's alright to care about other people, and yes, sometimes you shouldn't be altruistic. how fucking wonderful. naturally many people have wasted years of study on just this wishy washy semantic bullshit to come to a common sense answer.

2020-03-17 15:06:43 UTC  

Using definitions in arguments is even a fallacy

2020-03-17 15:06:49 UTC  

It isn't.

2020-03-17 15:06:52 UTC  

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2020-03-17 15:07:08 UTC  

Definitions are the basis of an argument. Words without meaning yields arguments without meaning.

2020-03-17 15:07:23 UTC  

Loo

2020-03-17 15:07:24 UTC  

Loo

2020-03-17 15:07:25 UTC  

@NinjaQuick They literally cannot be

2020-03-17 15:07:30 UTC  

<:WaitWhatArmy:590858815189024778>

2020-03-17 15:07:31 UTC  

THERE IS NO TRUTH

2020-03-17 15:07:32 UTC  

NOTHING IS REAL

2020-03-17 15:07:37 UTC  

NIHILISM EVERYWHERE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

2020-03-17 15:07:49 UTC  

ooh boy you've attracted nihilist thought

2020-03-17 15:07:50 UTC  

Except a word without meaning is just a series of sounds.

2020-03-17 15:08:02 UTC  

The only way a definition can be the premise of an argument is if you sit down prior to tue argument and agree on a specific definition

2020-03-17 15:08:12 UTC  

So you're fucking retarded. You're misusing the logical fallacy.

2020-03-17 15:08:16 UTC  

Anything else is fallacious

2020-03-17 15:08:18 UTC  

exactly

2020-03-17 15:08:24 UTC  

Just because it can be wrong doesn't mean it is always wrong.

2020-03-17 15:08:33 UTC  

You're really bad at thinking , phad.

2020-03-17 15:08:35 UTC  

It's always wrong

2020-03-17 15:08:46 UTC  

Absolutism is a position of small minds

2020-03-17 15:08:49 UTC  

The only time it's acceptable is if the other person specifically agrees to it

2020-03-17 15:09:10 UTC  

That sounds less like an argument and more like communism.

2020-03-17 15:09:12 UTC  

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2020-03-17 15:09:50 UTC  

An appeal to definition is not the same as the basis of language which is common understanding of the meaning of a word.

2020-03-17 15:10:11 UTC  

I didn't say it was

2020-03-17 15:10:24 UTC  

Appeal to definition is pretending a definition can be a premise of an argument

2020-03-17 15:10:25 UTC  

Your stance of demanding that Eden abide by your definition of altruism is an example of appeal to definition.

2020-03-17 15:10:28 UTC  

definitions should be obvious to each participant beforehand, and if they are not, should only be resolved in favour of one participant. if the definition proposed is meaningless or simply not commonly accepted, the participant is thrown from a cliff. that's how fucking mad I am at semantics ruining the fields of academia that should've saved the last few decades.

2020-03-17 15:10:29 UTC  

It almost never can be

2020-03-17 15:10:36 UTC  

Whereas the group here agree with the common vernacular