Message from @ManAnimal
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@Mersenne For example, nowadays the swedish social democrats cucked completely about immigrants, being all "open borders" and "pro-immigration" and "anti-racist".
Just like most parties on the left
The worst part about progressivism is both in their name and attitude and they simply *assume* that their beliefs are automatically in the name of progress
"progressive ideology" seems redundant to me
Which is why they are often arrogant, snobbish asshats
However, back in the day, The Swedish Social Democrats were some of the most staunchest pro-borders and anti-immigration parties in Swedish politics, because the Labour unions were concerned that the capitalists would use things like freedom of movement and cheap foreign labour as a weapon to depress wages and undermine the influence of the labour unions.
@Seven Proxies - Not that it makes much difference, as radical progressive parties are being rejected en mass across the globe.
So pre-progressive Social Democrats and Post-progressive Social Democrats were two very different parties
are they though?
Labour unions need a rework
The crippling defeat of Corbyn being the most prolific of recent memory.
@Mersenne Yes it's true, and the Social Democrats are seeing a sharp decline in public support.
the far left has lost it's momentum
with the coming economic fallout, i think you will find those progressive ideology stronger than ever
The pendulum is swinging sharply to the right
Nationalism and the right rising worldwide
Trump might as well handed the progressives his head on a silver platter
They've been haemorraging voters for years now, with the conservative, anti-immigration Sweden Democrats swooping up most of their voters.
In fact, most members of the labour unions are voting for the Sweden Democrats rather than Social Democrats nowadays.
His initial dismissive response is what was bad
@ManAnimal - I’m actually inclined to disagree. In a global pandemic, people default to conservative values rather than leaping to radical change.
Yes, but people care about faces more than ideology atm
but the pandemic isn't out primary issue
@Blaster Master True.
I'm just thinking of how to prevent it from swinging to far
it will be the long-lasting economic fallout
plays right into their narrative
and those in the center and libel to fall the other way
@Seven Proxies you can't. It's natural. It goes left, then right. Left, then right. Left and... Right
Exactly. The economy is the measure of a President’s favorability and retention of office. It’s the single largest factor in re-election
I mean, I want to exterminate socialists in concentration camps as much as the next guy ;)
But I realize that it might not be conducive to convince people of why the nationalist right wing is morally right 😄
Ofc you can
Simply holding your position instead of going with or against the pendulum is how you prevent it from swinging
and if italy is any indication, the cities in the US are going to be devasted
It wont be that bad
@Coolitic I doubt that. The radical centrists have always been irrelevant
Italians are filthier I'd say but Cali's fuccd
They're the ones getting ground up into a fine, pink paste between the far left and the far right when they clash
democrats are in all the major cities
Not in my experience
Maybe on social media