Message from @ManAnimal
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Imma go to bed
Goodnight
good night
good night
sigh*
People only kill themselves after abjection of all hope for things to change
that's one reason
another is for attention
another is to simply escape from the pain
I don't see the difference with the latter unless we're talking about self harm instead
We have assisted suicide here, hot topic
implosion vs explosion vs defiance
The attention one begs the question of they know they are cutting across the street instead of down the road or not, lol
the person makes the attempt for attention
and ends up being too efficent
Agreed
I dunno, I'd say it varies
was a guy that jumped off the golden gate for nothing more than a tooth ache
It does. depends on the person
I shouldn't invalidate escape from immediate pain in there here and now but I'm still dubious if that would happen if they expected it to end and come good
but it was very unlike it was the ONLY straw
I still kind of think my initial conception is correct
jumping off a high bridge, pretty well committed action
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Still requires having nothing going for them
abjection of hope is dfferent from defiance and different from snapping after being under too much stress for too long
I still think its total abjection of hope because people kill themselves with kids and a wife because they are in hyper debt and they know how its going to go down in a few months
i STRONGLY disagree
I can believe snapping
men DEFINATELY kill themselves with kids and a wife because they are in hyper debt
Tim Pool did a recent video on the suicide variable as a side to this mess...I think most of us here were around for the "great recession" ya?
quite often in fact
I'm not sold on defiance, seems to be where violent expression towards others might happen
I said they totally do
because they have been robbed at what they define themselves by or what others look to them to provide
defiance can encompass that sure, but defiance is a lot of things, including defiance against your own inclination to react to a situation in that "natural" manner.
I'd like to clarify that I said they definitely do because of hyper debt even when all is right **For now**
oh, i'm the kinda bastard that if backed into a corner, i'd off myself if i could rrame a bitch that fucked me over for it
definance