But i think men leaving the workforce could also possibly be because whats the point of working you ass off when there is nothing for you at home

well, thankfully, i feel like what i do at work matters

so it doesn't matter that i go home and feel lonely

my 3 rescue doggies disgree with that at least. Always feels good to return home to that

lol

I mean i dont have it, but i like the job im doing right now.
But i can certainly imagine that working shit jobs + not having anything to work for, is not exactly gonna encourage men to do any more then bare minimum

hence part time jobs just to support themselves

yeah

It certainly didnt encourage me at all back in those days

i was done with it

You gotta understand, these worthless insecure jobs that just keep on being tossed your way for years, put your entire life on hold.
You dont get any value of them other then that you can say u worked at place X Y Z, and you gotta explain in every interview for your next shit job, why that didnt work out.
In the meantime, you cant take out loans, you cant buy a house, you can barely rent a place (because insecure income), your whole life is put at pause by these kinds of "flexible" jobs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/433262793043738624/509938381166346240/bq-5be392d705f06.png

Solution for me was to say fuck it, stopped working and decided to be a dick and get welfare in order to get my electrical engineer degree.
took me a few very hard years of below min standard living to get me where i am today

I spent 15 years in the military, 4 years in Iraq, bronze star, jmsm, and can’t find a job anywhere

did you eat ramen?

@tritrium oh I've been there. Worked in factories for a while but the fact is that most of them now are all classified as temporary jobs and are owned by venture capitalist firms that are barely more then vultures waiting to pick the corpse of the place clean

That sucks fireonmountain

it's so weird how in situations like that, what's meant to be a financial safety net is the only way to succeed.

Yea its a calculation

But i wouldnt advise anyone doing it

It literally means eating max twice a day and preferably not every day

specially in winter

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you can choose

Either face the cold or eat twice

well i stress eat so i would be really bad at being poor 😂

I went the work 80+ hours route....

I learned very well how to do with very little

it actually was valuable to me in the long run

I do not advise that btw

Yeah, I was a lifer, never planned on getting out, I forage, hunt for extra food, eat a lot of oats, beans

as i can easily save money these days

Yea 80 hours is ridiculous

Hard to find anything full time anymore

what is "jmsm", fire?

Joint meritorious service medal

pog

Lol

lol

also went nightshift for the extra 2/hour to make ends meet, and as a result had no life outside paying bills or doing clothes

I was a 19/d,