Invading the ME didn't work for anyone from Rome on

Controlling the middle East has proved impossible for centuries

Not with that attitude

Is north Africa part of the middle east?

It was a Roman province for centuries

And it will continue to prove impossible until someone decides to glass the middle East

We cannot force our culture on those unwilling to accept it in their own land.

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Or we can go the non genocidal route and wait until the place runs out of oil

Likewise, we have the right to protect our own culture in our own lands

Fair but that's gonna take a while

Isolationism works in small doses

We shouldn't isolate ourselves from the world any more than I should isolate myself from my city.

I don’t think anyone is arguing for pure autarky

It's not binary. It's not a choice between interventionism and isolationism.

I know

My example has nuance.

I won't run my own house based on what my community deems acceptable

Maybe dump the migration back to Africa after the Chinese build some infrastructure. Though its debatable

But that doesn't mean I won't interact.

But some people want to reduce the amount of interaction

That doesn't mean I won't go to the store

We shouldn't be spending tax money on other nations.

But we should

I like to visit the middle east, but not live like they do

We are a superpower, it is our moral obligation to help other countries

Disagree

And the alternative is the UN complaining about how we didnt stop a genocide

Our nation does not live and breathe. It's a structure.

It's not bound by morals, the people are.

What we should’ve done was stay in Iraq longer so reconstruction could be more complete

I mean i don't socialise beyond what is nessesary and I'm doing fine with a girlfriend and everything

*im playing devils advocate with the whole moral obligation thing*

Bad idea. We pulled out after we should have

And yet we’re still there!

That’s the thing. We never actually left!

About Iraq, ISIS is mostly gone and there are nice neighborhoods with hipster teir commie blocks

It becomes quite clear, time after time, that Islamic nations need dictators to contain Islam's dogmatic nature.

I love it, making a fool out of myself

Nation building takes time and money. But time and money is the greatest enemy of warfare.

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