would you want a doctor slicing into you without or an engineer designing a bridge without knowledge of basic statics?

Why are you equating knowledge with having gone to college?

that's where you learn those things. true, you can read up and study these things on your own but how will you know that you understand these things properly without putting them into practice?

Because they have put them into practice.

If they have zero other experience, you have another problem.

also, six figures and bachelors degree are unrelated. people going to trade school will make more money than people with a gender studies degree

Nobody I have ever given a hire after an interview has turned out as a complete flake.

it depends on the industry, i would say

you definitely have a hire risk in medicine or construction

All did average or better at some of world's largest software companies, on systems that several millions of dollars depended on.

higher* risk

- The Globalist

If they have a track record of having done what I hire them to do before, that is good enough for me.

"Why Israel is not a legitimate state"

- thestateofpalestine.com

After a few years, nobody cares about your degree anyway, unless it's some licensing issue.

of course but how will they get that track record if they just learn the stuff out of high school

after a certain amount of years, i agree that experience trumps the degree

"Why you should not vote Democrat"

- therepublicanparty.com

Like everybody else: by starting small.

but the degree helps you get in the door

I'm actually much more hesitant about the reverse: to put some noob on an important project straight out of college. I take someone with experience over degree any time.

the degree is a fashion of transferring the training cost from corporations to the potential employee

Well you're both right here

yes, i agree with you UM

Having a degree is one way to get experience, but it has become progressively worse.

A person who has gone to college cam actually prove his worth, and has experience other experienced people

Relying on a degree would actually be a horrible idea today.

@Undead Mockingbird i say it depends on the industry

But a person can get even better on his own

You do not want to hire anyone on their degree. The best people I have ever hired were self-taught.

Personally, degrees mean a lot here still

I am speaking with personal experience from software engineering and friends from electrical engineering and IT are saying the same.

that's definitely possible but as a corporation, you're looking at either hiring a noob, investing 3-4 years in basic fundamentals and then they can walk. whereas with a degree, the company skips those 3-4 years in training

In the end, the big companies and important projects put you through a one or two day hiring process anyway.

A lot of everything you learn, you have to learn on your own

And that's after a phone screening and having verified your work history.

The teachers simply give you a question bank

And every week tell us to finish a module

After you've had one or two jobs, nobody cares about your degree anymore.

but you have no work history if you're straight out of high school and spend your time learning the subject on your own