Message from @Pyro

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2018-11-20 05:48:59 UTC  

Its basically 9 people deciding on new constitutional amendments

2018-11-20 05:48:59 UTC  

the argument was stupid

2018-11-20 05:49:17 UTC  

the constitution needs an amendment to prohibit first-trimester abortion

2018-11-20 05:49:28 UTC  

because of search and seizure or some shit

2018-11-20 05:49:31 UTC  

that fell on everyone then. The judges, the elected officials who were afraid of dissenting with popular opinion...

2018-11-20 05:49:33 UTC  

u do know that it takes a large majority of congress just to add an ammendment right?

2018-11-20 05:49:37 UTC  

yeah, five people had a shitty argument once

2018-11-20 05:49:59 UTC  

republicans, had they spines, could have reversed it

2018-11-20 05:50:07 UTC  

Your point @Pyro ?

2018-11-20 05:50:22 UTC  

Cause ofc I'm aware

2018-11-20 05:50:26 UTC  

that with divided politics, it's impossible

2018-11-20 05:50:33 UTC  

Unless your the scotus

2018-11-20 05:50:38 UTC  

there are ample opportunities to override the supreme court's opinions from the legislature

2018-11-20 05:50:40 UTC  

they choose not to

2018-11-20 05:50:45 UTC  

and that is the main reason it doesn't happen

2018-11-20 05:50:47 UTC  

Then you can just say something is unconstitutional and its illegal

2018-11-20 05:51:01 UTC  

Cause of Judicial review

2018-11-20 05:51:01 UTC  

now republicans being cowards, and democrats being batshit crazy cultists is another matter

2018-11-20 05:51:14 UTC  

generally speaking, laws prohibiting first-trimester abortion are not constitutional

2018-11-20 05:51:15 UTC  

yes

2018-11-20 05:51:27 UTC  

unfortunately thats true

2018-11-20 05:51:43 UTC  

the constitution must be amended, in order for the answer to change

2018-11-20 05:51:50 UTC  

they did that by changing the definition of life...

2018-11-20 05:51:51 UTC  

this prevents double jeopardy, which is great

2018-11-20 05:51:55 UTC  

and prevents waste

2018-11-20 05:52:11 UTC  

however, the downside is that you get stuck with things

2018-11-20 05:52:31 UTC  

if the dissent is too weak

2018-11-20 05:52:42 UTC  

it is unconstitutional, so you must amend the constitution in order to change it

2018-11-20 05:52:42 UTC  

or evenly divided

2018-11-20 05:52:44 UTC  

and that is okay

2018-11-20 05:52:51 UTC  

because it is a rare oddity

2018-11-20 05:53:02 UTC  

and considerably better than some places

2018-11-20 05:53:08 UTC  

where the supreme court is held hostage by the military

2018-11-20 05:53:12 UTC  

Or we tell scotus that they dont have the ability to imply powers upon themselves

2018-11-20 05:53:14 UTC  

just go south if you want a weak supreme court

2018-11-20 05:53:16 UTC  

go way south

2018-11-20 05:53:25 UTC  

And we dont need to amend the constitution at all

2018-11-20 05:53:35 UTC  

basically everywhere in latin america, the supreme court has little power

2018-11-20 05:53:38 UTC  

so prohibition was fine?

2018-11-20 05:53:40 UTC  

isn't it great?

2018-11-20 05:53:43 UTC  

imagine if the supreme court couldn't refute the laws made by progressive democrats....