Message from @Misomania

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2018-11-20 07:34:13 UTC  

I can agree that your right

2018-11-20 07:34:36 UTC  

My problem with minimum wage is that, genereally speaking, if you set a bar, people will rise exactly to the level of that bar

2018-11-20 07:34:36 UTC  

But just becuase your right about that does not mean we should lose the minimum wage

2018-11-20 07:34:59 UTC  

If you go to get a brand new job right now, changes are they will offer you exactly minimum wage

2018-11-20 07:34:59 UTC  

large spikes in social program spending also coincides with large spikes in unemployment

2018-11-20 07:35:06 UTC  

The minimum wage has inflated our dollar to a point where without it, we would be screwed

2018-11-20 07:35:11 UTC  

We would all starve

2018-11-20 07:35:21 UTC  

I think that is hyperbolic

2018-11-20 07:35:31 UTC  

Actually he has a point

2018-11-20 07:35:36 UTC  

Also, if a low pay means that someone is exploiting someone else, wouldn't that mean that everybody could be the "exploiter"?

2018-11-20 07:35:57 UTC  

And if everybody is "the exploiter" who is exploiting whom?

2018-11-20 07:36:19 UTC  

There is no exploitation. The wages simply reflect the relative value of the job in the given market.

2018-11-20 07:36:28 UTC  

Society will crumble at its knees

2018-11-20 07:36:32 UTC  

The whole talk of "exploitation" is infantile nonsense.

2018-11-20 07:36:35 UTC  

Mass rioting, murder

2018-11-20 07:36:36 UTC  

low negoiated pay is the workers fault, low average sector pay is social engineering

2018-11-20 07:36:37 UTC  

Theft

2018-11-20 07:36:40 UTC  

Huh?

2018-11-20 07:36:42 UTC  

Starvation

2018-11-20 07:36:59 UTC  

No, if labor is cheap, that means that YOU can also employ someone cheaply.

2018-11-20 07:37:07 UTC  

and using social engineering to artifically deflate wages is exploitation

2018-11-20 07:37:07 UTC  

I think he is just being hyperbolic at this point

2018-11-20 07:37:09 UTC  

Why would that lead to starvation?

2018-11-20 07:37:18 UTC  

Yeah but employing cheaply is not selling cheaply

2018-11-20 07:37:28 UTC  

If labor was cheap, and you needed someone for the harvest, that would also mean that YOU can employ someone cheaply.

2018-11-20 07:37:29 UTC  

Food would be the same

2018-11-20 07:37:33 UTC  

No one could buy

2018-11-20 07:37:36 UTC  

We would die

2018-11-20 07:37:57 UTC  

In fact, one factor in raising the cost of labor is that employers tend to hire fewer people and automate more.

2018-11-20 07:38:03 UTC  

in fact, diluting the job market is the entire reason for the left's so called diversity desire

2018-11-20 07:38:18 UTC  

With a lower cost of labor, they tend to provide more services. And who do those services go to? Other people.

2018-11-20 07:38:29 UTC  

So the value produced by a falling cost of labor does not simply "evaporate"

2018-11-20 07:38:32 UTC  

if they force women to take tech sector jobs, they double their labor pool.. and reduce their cost of labor

2018-11-20 07:38:38 UTC  

It dosn't simply disappear. It stays in the economy.

2018-11-20 07:38:52 UTC  

There is no such dynamic is "exploiter" and "exploited" in a free market.

2018-11-20 07:39:01 UTC  

Except we would see way to many problems before it corrects itself

2018-11-20 07:39:03 UTC  

If two peopel engage in a trade, it is because it is beneficial to both.

2018-11-20 07:39:04 UTC  

it's not for women's sake that they want women to take those jobs. It's purely self interest to dilute the market with as many people as possible

2018-11-20 07:39:08 UTC  

I mean sure do your thing

2018-11-20 07:39:16 UTC  

Both parties end up richer after the transaction.

2018-11-20 07:39:16 UTC  

You will see that I'm right