Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-11-20 07:30:20 UTC  

Love it

2018-11-20 07:30:28 UTC  

Wish I had food on the table

2018-11-20 07:30:31 UTC  

You are just spamming now.

2018-11-20 07:30:58 UTC  

You understand that people were able to sustain themselves before minimum wage, right?

2018-11-20 07:31:18 UTC  

Yeah, but today that would be impossible

2018-11-20 07:31:26 UTC  

Because a minimum wage was implemented

2018-11-20 07:31:29 UTC  

the entire sectors of both low and unskilled labor get flooded and unable to handle the influx of people

2018-11-20 07:32:01 UTC  

So the reason we can't get rid of minimum wage is because we have a minimum wage?

2018-11-20 07:32:13 UTC  

Yes

2018-11-20 07:32:18 UTC  

the addition of a class of people that are exempt from minimal wage (because they aren't citizens) though makes legal hiring of citizens a negative

2018-11-20 07:32:19 UTC  

The problem has existed too long

2018-11-20 07:32:24 UTC  

^

2018-11-20 07:32:33 UTC  

Its not fixable anymore

2018-11-20 07:32:47 UTC  

Systems tend to self-correct

2018-11-20 07:32:59 UTC  

Unless people riot

2018-11-20 07:33:11 UTC  

Or all die

2018-11-20 07:33:13 UTC  

they are doing that anyways

2018-11-20 07:33:16 UTC  

For example, black unemployment in the recession year 1949 of lower than in the most prosperous years of the 60s and 70s.

2018-11-20 07:33:43 UTC  

Minimum wage is a forcible distortion and a misstatement of the value of labor in a market.

2018-11-20 07:33:47 UTC  

of course, social programs alleviated the need to work

2018-11-20 07:34:03 UTC  

If you want to hand someone money, you can do so, but a market distortion is simply that: a distortion.

2018-11-20 07:34:07 UTC  

And your not wrong undead

2018-11-20 07:34:12 UTC  

the 60-70s added a lot of incentives to not work, where the 40s had you need to work to eat

2018-11-20 07:34:13 UTC  

I can agree that your right

2018-11-20 07:34:36 UTC  

My problem with minimum wage is that, genereally speaking, if you set a bar, people will rise exactly to the level of that bar

2018-11-20 07:34:36 UTC  

But just becuase your right about that does not mean we should lose the minimum wage

2018-11-20 07:34:59 UTC  

If you go to get a brand new job right now, changes are they will offer you exactly minimum wage

2018-11-20 07:34:59 UTC  

large spikes in social program spending also coincides with large spikes in unemployment

2018-11-20 07:35:06 UTC  

The minimum wage has inflated our dollar to a point where without it, we would be screwed

2018-11-20 07:35:11 UTC  

We would all starve

2018-11-20 07:35:21 UTC  

I think that is hyperbolic

2018-11-20 07:35:31 UTC  

Actually he has a point

2018-11-20 07:35:36 UTC  

Also, if a low pay means that someone is exploiting someone else, wouldn't that mean that everybody could be the "exploiter"?

2018-11-20 07:35:57 UTC  

And if everybody is "the exploiter" who is exploiting whom?

2018-11-20 07:36:19 UTC  

There is no exploitation. The wages simply reflect the relative value of the job in the given market.

2018-11-20 07:36:28 UTC  

Society will crumble at its knees

2018-11-20 07:36:32 UTC  

The whole talk of "exploitation" is infantile nonsense.

2018-11-20 07:36:35 UTC  

Mass rioting, murder

2018-11-20 07:36:36 UTC  

low negoiated pay is the workers fault, low average sector pay is social engineering

2018-11-20 07:36:37 UTC  

Theft

2018-11-20 07:36:40 UTC  

Huh?