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Vaping certainly isn't healthy for you but it's far less dangerous than smoking cigarettes. @Alpaca13

I was able to stop smoking thanks to my vape but I'd like to quit that too eventually

This....*this is beautiful*

Actually with the new research vaping is not at all “far less dangerous”.

You can get popcorn lung just from months of vaping because of the harsh chemicals in flavored juices, that are sadly in every single juice

Quit vaping now or you will get COPD, have to have an oxygen tank with you 24/7, your lungs will fill with fluid, scarring in the lung tissue, etc

COPD is like 20-30 years from now though. But popcorn lung is not

Scarring of the lung tissue is also not far from now

Thats why i dont smoke anything, literally smoking just paper wrapping is bad for you, inhaling anything into your lungs that is either smoke. or a non-medical chemical is not safe.

Actually fact: Anything that’s not oxygen is harmful for your lungs.

Even when people smoke weed from a bong

When i have smoked before, my lungs felt like a fucking inferno.

It’s still bad

You were literally cooking your alveoli lol

Smoking weed is bad because of the smoke part, at this point, for medical reason's just eat it or use oil.

What is Popcorn lung?

I vaped because it was “new” so there wasn’t research except the same video over and over of a cig being burned in a bottle and the bottle turns brown and plaque like, yet he vape kept the bottle clear and clean so I thought “hey that’s not bad, I’ll vape and see about further research”. The research is coming out not and it’s NOT GOOD

There are zero known cases of anyone getting popcorn lung from vaping. It's sensationalism

https://www.webmd.com/lung/popcorn-lung

Zero known cases is actually bullshit

*web MD as a source, are you fucking joking?*

The chemical for flavoring in microwaved popcorn is in flavored vape juices

@Alpaca13 Lmfao, i remember the time your vape almost blew up in your pocket, it got so hot it burned your leg.

REEEEE

It’s not wrong though. The link is still correct.

https://www.lung.org/about-us/blog/2016/07/popcorn-lung-risk-ecigs.html

It's not in *all* flavored juices. Harvard tested a few and found it there. It's mostly in buttery or pastry flavored juices. There are companies that produce vape juice with no diacetyl, anyway.

https://blog.uvahealth.com/2018/11/13/popcorn-lung/amp/

Don’t forget that literally any form is sugar going into your lungs in destructive. Sugar on body tissue gets decayed.

I mean Alice is the medical professional here,

For the studies you listed I can shoot back a bunch that shows it's far less dangerous than smoking. But a tit for tat is pointless. I agree with your basic premise of it not being healthy. It's risk mitigation.

*Like literally one*

Give some one D50, who has an active brain bleed, or you missed the IV and it’s just in the skin, it kills the tissue

https://blogs.biomedcentral.com/on-health/2017/11/20/vaping-is-less-harmful-than-conventional-smoking/

Propylene Glycol

vegetable glycerin

They’re in every single juice

Well the sweeter ones. I can’t say for the menthol ones. But literally anything that has even the slightest sweet taste has those 2 ingredients in it.

I never said it didn’t, I’m saying it’s not far off anymore.

With vaping you either get popcorn lung shortly after you start vaping, or 10/20/30 years down the road you suffer from COPD.