^

Scientists literally only get their degrees by memorizing things told to them

no, the socratic method did, not critical thought

If there was a flaw in what they were told to memorize, they'd be wrong forever

and that is what is happening

that's why we're fucked for having standardized systems

If scientists just memorize, why the fuck new stuff appears. do they just remember it @Gilgamesh

I think critical thought is the most basic form of rationality. It's easy, anyone can critisize

And it's been around for a long time

Scientists regularly investigate the assumptions of the past.

^

Isn't the socratic method within the realm of critical thinking though?

new stuff appears because they convince the morons who only memorized, some of them are willing to make shit up

How do you think we figured out that we aren't a geocentric flat earth

fucking hell

A car got invented

Is it made up

No

Socratic flips to a right brain thought more often, when a new question is asked

the vast majority of scientists are the same as new college students

holy fuck

Or is critical thought something different and specific compared to the idea of critical thinking as a whole?

we're not talking about cars, rouqen

we're talking about wild speculation

We are talking about science

A problem with the education system doesn't invalidate the scientific method

A car was a big progress leap

Bad scientists don't disprove science

right, i guess science has become wild speculation, you're right

we're talking about beer actually

god damn

Yeah pretty off topic guys

Theoretical physics is wild speculation

"Cars aren't science"

True

What else isn't science, electricity maybe?

Semiconductors?

Wild speculation doesn't have to be a bad thing if once you make the speculation you test it. If you find out something weird happens that you speculated you can uncover truths about the world.

^

That's all engineering rigfht? Which is applied science?

Akka