Message from @xorgy
Discord ID: 518258095194112021
in some ways, everything he's said is a matter of opinion
If there's any way to make socialism work its to restrain it. Same with capitalism
So an opinion can't be wrong?
That makes the system based on a contradiction
If you look at what happened in Canada following the same period of time, it could be argued that public outcry at some market outcomes is a major part of what made Canada the cuck progressive garbage heap it is today
What makes it a contradiction? That it isn't something it is, as it was once defined by someone who didn't make it up?
that is
Canada's capitalism suffered because it was not being protected by realpolitik
If the system doesnt live up to its logical extreme philosophical implications it is a contradiction of those implications
Tucker is not saying something contradictiory
he's saying something nuanced
If a system excedes a logical extreme it no longer stays itself.
that the system retained more of the benefits of capitalism by appearing to rein it in, than it would if it had been left to its own devices in a public way.
How do you get capitalism by holding back capitalism?
It becomes something else.
that the realpolitik had the effect of a more capitalist system ten or twenty years after the fact
because the alternative was not _never restricting the market_, it was _waiting for the next politician, who would restrict the market even more severely_
@zero_consequences Not my point
My point was if the system is not its logical extreme its a contradiction
the real political choice was not between restricting or not restricting capitalism
Case in point, if a competative capitalist market thrives until one unit supercedes all other competition and becomes a monopoly, and drives all competition out it is no longer capitalism.
So where's this fucking logical extreme bullshit coming from
in order to produce the more capitalist outcome, a non-capitalist political policy was necessary
Lol
because, in lieu of that policy, an ever more strident anti-capitalist policy would take its place.
A free market means free from force
well, a freer market is freer of force
Exactly
you didn't have that choice
Forced to use a certain area of the market because all competition has been wiped out, is not a free market.
Mind blown?
Lol
well, nobody is forced to engage in commerce
wal mart circa 2000
(except when they are, but that's not so much what you mean)
The market assigns a value to companies
Man must produce to earn wealth and trade
anyway
this is all stupid
yeah