how r people so philosophically broken right now, as opposed to them not being so at some point earlier?

i wanted to be fired 😄

look at krokadil for example, that should NEVER be legal

horrid shit

krokadil is awful

It is very popular in Russia and Ukraine

@Paradox Well id say enlightenment we weren't perfect but better

how so?

Both enlightenment

Look at the innovation and the economy growth

so your measure of people being broken is economy and innovation?

Kind of

in markets based on addiction the top 10% of it's users provide 90% of it's income on average. That shows how broken we as people are toward addiction I think

But individual rights where looked at more back than

more you say?

Yes look at patons

Hmm, well I disagree.

Also people must be motivated to produce reverence was more of a thing

@Rouqen we have that crap in the US as well, the damage it does to them in their last 2 years of life is horrific

Not to say it doesnt happen but its been kind of demonized

I think we're pretty much the same as we have been. Our ability has only changed.

Well if our abilities where growing we would be more progressed

by ability, i really meant our ability to do things, mainly via tech

Not nearly as much innovation goes on compared to enlightenment times

The economy was booming

not sure i agree with that either

how many inventions are made now, that you never hear of

seems most of our inventions through history came from war times really

or don't pay attention to?

while enlightment times we were mostly getting high and getting laid

I think it's probably the big ones you notice.

Here let me send economic charts

pretty sure tim did a video with a bunch of charts in it

where it showed the % of global poverty or some shit....If memory serves that is much lower than it was then.

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/business/worlduntil2000.png

So, uh, where has it gone down?

@Misomania I didn't know krok is very big

its a Russian word and all that

Its literally named after the damage it does

Its so bad

it's gotten fairly widespread lately and is worldwide now