Message from @Grovyle

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2018-12-10 06:04:23 UTC  

If you are the wrong kind of communist, it's off to the gulag

2018-12-10 06:04:25 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-10 06:04:45 UTC  

I agree what you said earlier @Misomania

2018-12-10 06:04:55 UTC  

But the right kinds of communists seem to do pretty well financially

2018-12-10 06:04:56 UTC  

I think the new right is more libertarian

2018-12-10 06:05:33 UTC  

But this is a unique problem for that since it deals with private companies limiting speech to those people

2018-12-10 06:05:57 UTC  

for that we have to refer to what they call gravity then

2018-12-10 06:06:19 UTC  

So the solution is naturally to have a company which claims to be open to hate speech or any speech

2018-12-10 06:06:23 UTC  

treating the platform like a blackhole and seeing how it distorts and warps those things around it

2018-12-10 06:07:15 UTC  

But we have to hope some rich libertarian or just some rich guy funds a libertarian company to replace or compete with patreon

2018-12-10 06:07:17 UTC  

once large enough a platform attracts people to it by sheer size alone, it controls everything around it and warps all of reality around it. Even if it lost all safeharbour it would still consume and destroy everything around it by sheer mass alone

2018-12-10 06:07:40 UTC  

So what then

2018-12-10 06:07:46 UTC  

We boycott all social media

2018-12-10 06:07:51 UTC  

There's a better way- fuck big social media sites

2018-12-10 06:07:53 UTC  

regulation is all we have, monopoly busting

2018-12-10 06:07:54 UTC  

We destroy our phones

2018-12-10 06:07:55 UTC  

They're trash anyway

2018-12-10 06:08:30 UTC  

Since I'm actually left leaning libertarian, I say we force companies to allow any kind of speech

2018-12-10 06:08:35 UTC  

Twitter, Facebook et al have never been good. They never will be good

2018-12-10 06:08:47 UTC  

Why should be allow our corporations to censor us if we believe we shouldn't be censored

2018-12-10 06:09:00 UTC  

spam is a serious problem though, allowing any kind of speech at all is a bad idea but i agree with the general idea

2018-12-10 06:09:08 UTC  

You don't own their business

2018-12-10 06:09:11 UTC  

Spam can be dealt with

2018-12-10 06:09:13 UTC  

@Gilgamesh if these big companies weren't beyond the critical mass point where they become social blackholes yes. But they are far far far to big and influential now

2018-12-10 06:09:25 UTC  

Then what is the answer

2018-12-10 06:09:34 UTC  

Rely on the rich?

2018-12-10 06:09:40 UTC  

That is antithetical

2018-12-10 06:09:43 UTC  

same thing we did for ma bell

2018-12-10 06:09:56 UTC  

Stop using them. Go back to chat rooms, forums, make use of the blockchain services

2018-12-10 06:10:00 UTC  

i think the ultimate issue is the payment processors, you can make your own platform but if they payment processors dont like you you're fucked no matter what

2018-12-10 06:10:11 UTC  

What, we all go back to 4chan?

2018-12-10 06:10:19 UTC  

so do the hosts, the name domains, etc

2018-12-10 06:10:43 UTC  

>blockchain and forums are 4chan
HowNew.ru

2018-12-10 06:10:52 UTC  

>auto URLs it

2018-12-10 06:11:05 UTC  

I'm not new, I just stopped lurking like ten years ago

2018-12-10 06:11:18 UTC  

I'm not talking about 4chan m80

2018-12-10 06:11:20 UTC  

we're at the point that this situation cannot be resolved any other way then forcefully breaking them up with monopoly laws

2018-12-10 06:11:23 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-10 06:11:38 UTC  

Look

2018-12-10 06:11:52 UTC  

The issue of too many people voluntarily using Twitter? How do you break that up?

2018-12-10 06:12:02 UTC  

I think Alex Jones is a shill. But he was banned across several platforms that are not owned by the same people within a day or two.