only the upper floors were weakened

yeah i share ixtigers tinfoil here, but i spent years arguing with people about it so i dont find it very stimulating anymore

same

it's really obvious and i'm tired of it

it's been nearly 20 years

resulting in failure of the structure around those floors, so total weight of the floors that collapse plus the weight of the floors above cause increased momentum and shock energy , if the structure has already been weakened by fire I really fail to see why this is considered dubious by a minority

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_Empire_State_Building_B-25_crash

so did we make a building that couldn't survive a plane crash

or did this plane on 9/11 just get a critical hit

the point of the building was to have a spine that would hold all the floors attached.

for them all to fall would take strategic placement of thermite at each floor

that is how demolitions happen

well i can tell you why we find it suspicious, but im not gonna debate it. the collapse seems to follow the path of most resistance, which is a physics mind fuck, and the other mind fuck is that the lighter part of the building can crush the stronger, bigger and more reinforced part of the building all the way to the ground. but yeah theres plenty of counter arguments to this, and revised nist studies which is being disputed back and forth and so on.

no

it makes sense when you don't know what the fuck you are talking about

but the building is literally meant to withstand this shit

just as the empire state stood strong

from a fucking bomber jet

clearly it wasnt

only 14 people died you fuck

are you joking

uh, B-25 is a twin engined prop IIRC

your point

a slightly bigger plane would trash the entire building?

but wait

you don't even blame the size

it's the jet fuel

which doesn't even burn hot enough

gotcha

fucking plebs

well you cant assume planes did this and use your assumption as evidence, its circular reasoning, and why the fuck am i being baited into this anyway, lol.

idk

"well the planes collapsed the building, so obviously that means planes can collapse this building"
lol

767 (standard) weighs MTOW of 142,882KG vs B-25's weight of 9k kg's

as a friend of mine once said: anyone who doesn't know that 9/11 was suspicious doesn't even have two brain cells to rub together

so, somewhat a significant disparity in weight and thus energy between a 767 hitting a building and a Mitchel B-25

that doesnt take into account amount of fuel carried between the two, type of fuel, and speed of the two aircraft at time of impact

okay

so basically your friend say anyone who disagrees with me is stupid, its not a helpful convincing claim to be fair

Sure, but there are different places that you can place suspicion.

you're saying that the plane's size was the difference