Message from @Nomad

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2018-12-10 23:41:16 UTC  

I guess it depends on the definition of "the US" then

2018-12-10 23:41:52 UTC  

the first amendment prevents government from infringing on free speech
it does not restrict youtube in any way
they are free to do as they please

2018-12-10 23:42:12 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-10 23:42:13 UTC  

so basically the gov will not protect free speech from companies

2018-12-10 23:42:14 UTC  

However.

2018-12-10 23:42:37 UTC  

We can not have free speech unless we (as a civilization) hold it as a principle.

2018-12-10 23:42:48 UTC  

colleges have a requirement to support free speach and often do what they can to prevent it. We have a constitutional right to free speech but very few willing to defend it

2018-12-10 23:43:04 UTC  

a plurality of Americans do value free speech
although the number is on the decline

2018-12-10 23:43:10 UTC  

half of our population is against it now

2018-12-10 23:43:16 UTC  

Alphabet can't say "The Government should protect free speech" while not doing it in their own actions, if it is not a principle of the people it will be lost.

2018-12-10 23:43:32 UTC  

half of young populations, but not of older people

2018-12-10 23:43:49 UTC  

was including the left's beloved migrants

2018-12-10 23:44:01 UTC  

yeah freedom from "harmful opinions" seems to becoming more important

2018-12-10 23:44:08 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-10 23:44:19 UTC  

it is a problem

2018-12-10 23:44:40 UTC  

people on the left seem to want a dystopian authoratarian future where they are afraid to say anything at all

2018-12-10 23:44:56 UTC  

Dysoypian

2018-12-10 23:45:01 UTC  

china's pretty good at protect peoples freedom from harmful opinions

2018-12-10 23:45:05 UTC  

for freedom!

2018-12-10 23:45:12 UTC  

I think it is wonderful that the big platforms choose to sensor
their MySpace moment is coming

2018-12-10 23:45:12 UTC  

I heard Tim say it before, Section 230 of the US communications decency act gives big tech power. I remember hearing from Tim that Twitter argued in court they could deny service to anyone, even based on other reasons like race/gender? Am I remembering that right?

2018-12-10 23:45:42 UTC  

CDA s230 grants legal immunity to "neutral platforms"

2018-12-10 23:45:56 UTC  

@Nomad under safe harbour they forfeited that right to gain immunity from lawsuits

2018-12-10 23:46:08 UTC  

They aren't neurtral

2018-12-10 23:46:12 UTC  

but USMCA rewrote CDA s230 with no neutral platform requiremnet

2018-12-10 23:46:19 UTC  

oh well

2018-12-10 23:46:21 UTC  

so now they are coming out as not neutral

2018-12-10 23:46:23 UTC  

fuck us all then.

2018-12-10 23:46:38 UTC  

and any intelligent observer has recognized the platforms were not neutral for some time

2018-12-10 23:46:44 UTC  

well

2018-12-10 23:46:47 UTC  

Well yes.

2018-12-10 23:46:49 UTC  

and twitter itself, with a federal judge, got it ruled that anyone not being able to post on trump's twitter page is a violation of the 1st ammendent

2018-12-10 23:46:51 UTC  

yes and no

2018-12-10 23:46:56 UTC  

like that imam who wants to stop radical islamic terrorists.. if someone has a wild out of control beard.. they might be a terrorist since trimming your beard is bad in islam

2018-12-10 23:47:11 UTC  

it is good that big tech is exposing itself

2018-12-10 23:47:14 UTC  

really good

2018-12-10 23:47:30 UTC  

so twitter itself called banning people from twitter illegal

2018-12-10 23:47:47 UTC  

apple: "our values guide our curation decisions"
every clueful person: "no shit, tim"

2018-12-10 23:47:51 UTC  

yet nothing is done about it because no one seems to have any spine

2018-12-10 23:48:51 UTC  

done... in what sense?